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December 1, 2008

Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Mon., Dec. 1, 2008, 6:37am ET

US Economic data this week will likely hold back last week’s market advance. While everybody expects Tuesday’s vehicle sales report to be a bad one, the harshest data is likely to come from this morning’s (10:00am ET) order book in the manufacturing data, and in the rising unemployment to come in Friday’s employment data.

The Asia-Pacific and European markets started the week on a negative note, and the $USD futures are up; while the US equity futures are down and it appears that the T-Bill yield will come under further pressure.

As I suspected as much when I was writing the WIR on Sunday morning, I gave the heads-up:

For $GOLD, the 50d MA is now 798.33, so the current 819 price may represent a break-through. The 200d MA is 875.05. However, there are issues to be resolved… The palladium, platinum, silver and copper prices did kick into gear this week, which supports the move in gold. But, I also need to see bond yields rise a bit and the $USD to fall before I am really convinced that the initial seven-session rally is sustainable into a two or three month one… As always, we need to watch prices by the minute, by the hour. It will be interesting to see if the $USD falls here, which would sustain the goldminer rally, or whether the $USD pops up and the goldminers are collared.

At this point, the $USD has strengthened to 86.90 and spot gold has dropped -18.30 to 793.50.

In other words, the volatility continues. A few days of panic in, followed by a few days of panic out.

I will leave the Daily Report until after 9am to watch for breaking news, if any. Then I anticipate lower prices for equities until at least after the results of the Treasury auction is completed at 1:00pm ET.

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Posted by Posted by Bill Cara on December 1, 2008 06:37:15 AM | Category: Community Chat

Discourse

Looking back at what the S&P does in the month of December, I don't see a lot of upward movement during this month in previous years. Possible reasons for stagnation include money movement out of Mutual Funds to avoid capital gains taxes, "tax purpose stock sales" in November that can't be rebought until after Jan, cash needed for holiday spending, and so on.

Of course, there is always a "bargain" somewhere.

Posted by: spot [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 7:32 AM [link]

$cpc and $nyhl weren't confirming the "rally"

Posted by: bsi87 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 7:44 AM [link]

Good morning:
Reagrading Bill's comment "...bond yields rise a bit and the $USD to fall before I am really convinced that the initial seven-session rally is sustainable into a two or three month one..."

Does this mean that if the dollar looses value then bond yields are relatively lower and people will want to move to equities for higher yields?

Thanks-still learning.

Posted by: yaya [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 7:45 AM [link]

Hi,

I am trying to make sure that I am understanding certain things.

[BC wrote:
For equities to continue to prosper, the pre-requisite is a healthy credit market. That is not the case today.

Credit markets must be made to work for corporations or else there will be an extended recession, possibly depression.]

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A week ago I wrote, “Thankfully, the equity market is close to a bottom, and many traders are beginning to see values in prices and that the quality of many corporations has remained intact.”


"...bond yields rise a bit and the $USD to fall before I am really convinced that the initial seven-session rally is sustainable into a two or three month one..."

(i) the equity market rally is not going on forever (unfortunately there will be another test of the lows), ]

Right

[Bill Cara note:

The cycle bottom process in the 2000-2002 Bear market took place over 9 months with a triple bottom. After the first bottom in July there was a substantial bump, and then prices were hammered down again to what traders later saw as the Bear market low in October. Then another major bump until another test of the bottom in March 2003. I think in this cycle, the bottom has been set, but like Oct 2002, there are still serious issues that must be cleared from the table. Ultimately I think the Obama Administration will do that and the stimulus programs will be effective, so that after the Earnings Season of late January into February has passed, and the stimulus programs are seen to be working, the market ought to be like March-April 2003 and be off on a strong Bull run -- moving up a Wall of Worry as economists discuss the recession-based data. As in the summer of 2002, when my strategic perspective turned from Bearish to Bullish, I am in a Bullish mode now. On pull-backs I am writing puts. I fear bonds and love gold, but that doesn't mean it's a one-way street. I'm a trader, looking to exploit the dips and rallies. Not knowing how far gold would rally on Friday, we took profits by closing the short puts. Now we are ready to write puts again -- maybe today, maybe tomorrow. You quoted me here, but you didn't also quote my statement that we must watch prices minute to minute, hour to hour. Seeking Alpha picked up an excerpt from one of my blogs about the gold trade. I was writing about what's happened since I published the Nov 12 Report on GG and the Nov 19 Trade of the Generation. It's now Dec 1 and the gold price dipped about -25, and on the surface somebody would say I had it wrong. A pro trader would say I could not have been more right. That's why I rail at these techies and general business types who say they do the public a service by "rating" people like me. These people wouldn't know a strangle from a necktie. By writing stuff here; all I am trying to do is to get people in the community to think and to talk to one another. Too many people, I gather, are taking this as investment advice when it's not.]

Posted by: newbee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 8:06 AM [link]