ANOTHER GREAT CALL BY BILL

LOOK at XOM...What did Bill say when this baby was trading around 95.00?

Thanks BILL I bought 2 Nov 95 puts that are now way in the $$$$...

Yesterday all PUMP AND DUMP...

In addition to all the problems you mentioned, there is a lot of war talk.

In reference to treasury bill rates, why are they so high? We had a crash in the credit markets in August and another similar crash during October. Why have the treasury bill rates found support?

EFU- paid off big at the open...off the table and rotating into QID...

EEV- unable to make a bid on Fido...

Agree with you 100%, Bill. I've been gnawing on my paw watching this market go higher against all reason. But I'd rather miss these kind of gains rather than get caught holding the bag.

If your blog has taught me nothing else, it has been patience.

The S&P is extremely ugly this a.m. and is testing the 1520 support I had in mind. It will likely bounce from here, but if it doesn't hold, then things will get much uglier.

DJIA's down 185 and they're still bidding up GOOG and AAPL?

"that was really disappointing

Posted by: shark_attack at October 31, 2007 2:24 PM"

"Dear Bill,

Consider that Drudge trumpeting $800 Gold may be the electronic-age equivalent of Time magazine putting a picture of a bull on their cover. I agree with your subtley unstated suggestion that maybe things are a little overdone. I don't think that today's quarter point with the suggestion of no more to come will embolden many bulls here. I'm not saying anything except that my stance is neutral and I will look to the metal itself to provide the clues as to it's next move.

I should mention that I sold HMY in here today; I'm not saying I was right to, but I think we'll all wake up tomorrow and wish we had more cuts coming.

Posted by: shark_attack at October 31, 2007 8:24 PM"

Hi,

Could one community Member please post here a link to the webage Bill mentiones in today's report in which we can find a screen of prices for the retailers?

Thanks!

Seamus, thanks for XOM yesterday, owe you another one.

finally caught a bid on EEV at 71...keeping position sizes small on all the international ultra-shorts till i get a better handle on them...may be the thin volume that makes them jump->c/w/s bet much bigger on EFU yesterday...

ISM index, an index of national manufacturing conditions, came in at low end of expected range at 50. Last month it was 52. 50 is a key level as, per Econoday, a reading above (below) 50 percent indicate an expanding (contracting) factory sector.

n2son- if 1520 goes then 1490...

2nd,

QID players probably often think of the old adage, "Markets can remain illogical longer than we can remain solvent."

When J6P can no longer afford his mortgage payment, food or fuel, will he be buying IPods? How will the coming economic calamity effect Google's advertising revenues?

Keep the faith, brother....and as always, good luck.

2nd, the fibs have been very accurate lately on the index charts. FWIW, on my hourly SPX I just moved the top of the range down to yesterday's high and, guess what, 1520 is the 61% retrace. Next support is 1513 and then, 1490.

Just broke 1520 as I am typing. Fighting here is going to be fierce.

BH- "faith" comes easier after fiscal year-end for funds...

Excellent point about the automatons on TV Bill. If you watch carefully, their body language will signal when their handler is sending a shock to their ear piece if any one of them gets too close to revealing anything outside of the script... ;) Hopefully all will watch them with a weather eye as well as strictly for entertainment purposes.

Interesting to note that the market rose 320 points the day of the first cut and followed through the next day with another 90 points. Yesterday's 25 bp trim delivered but 80 points and after nearly 20 minutes today, the market is regurgitating some 208+ points in the early going.
Hope y'all are paying attention....

They always say you never know what you miss until it is gone and since mid-August, I've been out of action and very nearly was out of the game entirely. I cannot more strongly plead with all reading to take greater interest in your health and in your own particular situation and more importantly, family history. As traders and investors it is the attention to detail and the acquisition & application of knowledge which determines our success. I failed to do just that with regards to my health and am, according to the Emory University Cariology & Thoracic Surgery Department, a case study for miraculously surviving a massive heart attack. I wouldn't know how as I was unconscious for 9 days and when I awoke, I more resembled someone being Borg'ed. Do your own homework, your own due diligence is the message and I don't mean to be preachy but had I done that, I would likely not have experienced such a life threatening experience.

Sheesh, twenty five minutes elapsed and we're still down over 200. Cash is looking good...

I'm with you number2son (of which I am also one:) ) i sold way too early, but i see no reason to jump in until the next pullback. to add to Bill's list, transport companies and retailers are having problems. check Markman's column on MSN today, and go to walmart.com/secret - black Friday specials for the next three weeks!!! They are really trying hard.

one more for everyone - www.blackfriday.info - day after Thanksgiving "specials" revealed a few weeks early. gotta love those loyal company employees right?

How big of a deal will this be for WGDFF? It comes from their third quarter results:
"As required under the terms of the loan facility, the Company has entered into hedging contracts for the forward sale of 429,000 ounces of gold at a price of $801 per ounce during the period July 2008 to December 2014."

I don't know if I'm looking at this correctly but if their expecting to get 160,000-170,000 ounces a year for the first 8 years, they've hedged a third of their production. Is this good, bad or indifferent. $801 is a much better price than what other companies have hedged but in a couple years-or months- that may be quite a discount. Thanks for your insights.

Question for people better at trading. I bought SKF (ultrashort financials) at 78. What would you do now, at 86.90?

Speaking of retailers, check out CROX. Currently down 29% at 53. Looks like expectations were too high. If it hits 40 or below in the next couple of days then, I think the march 08 calls will look good. With consumers Chrismas money in short supply, I think Apple and CROX will be two of the outperformers this holiday season. Just a thought.
Rob.

Bill,

MA's earning and revenue increase is not related to interest charge. It is really a payment processing company that gets a cut of total transaction (i.e. consumer's credit card bill). MA doesn't make money on interest charge or lose money on bad debt. Card issuing banks do.

In a sense, it is not in the same business as American Express, or Capital One. It is more like Western Uion although in a different market.

MA's competitive advantage is in its network of retailers, banks etc, and its ability to process payment seamlessly across the globe. Its future lies in the further penetration of credit cards in emerging markets and its ability to increase scale without increase costs proportionaly. It is a franchise with great moat in a growing industry.

For long term investors in this community, I would say it is a classic Buffet type stock, if you can buy cheap, you can hold for long-term (as least 10 years) and get market-beat returns.

"Fighting here is going to be fierce." no kidding...this bull doesn't want to go down..

Does anyone here know where I can find recession dates for Germany, UK and Japan?
I'm working on a finance paper, and so far all I've found are the NBER recession dates for the US...

thanks

So the normal bid in the stock market over the last few days near month-end is over. And the normal rally into the FOMC announcement is now over too. Now what?

Check out our FedCall research note from yesterday that discusses what happened to the stock market the last time the Fed cut the fed funds rate for the second time.

Our post from yesterday: Our FedCall research note on today's FOMC meeting in Washington, D.C. has just been published on our website, http://www.2globalmarkets.com.

The report is in the FedWatch section, on the FedCall page at http://tinyurl.com/yuxpxh

In regards to Bill's comment about letting the ARMS/Subprime/Alt-A/HB&B mess play out, since it is only getting started, I thought I would relate something of much greater importance that is staggering. Reading it was like an epiphany since I had not considered the implications of GSEs fully. This is something everyone should see.

From www.housingdoom.com:

"A Yahoo Finance Board post attributed to Dan Jones of E-Bluewater caught my eye yesterday. Jones asked What’s the number, Fannie? and he’s asking an important question:"

"What’s the Number, Fannie?

I’m going to put that at the top of my blog everyday until we find out just what "The Number" is. What number, you may ask!? The number I’m looking for is the actual drawdown in value that the $4 trillion portfolio of mortgage securities managed and/or guaranteed by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that has occurred as a result of this sub-prime, Alt-A, SIV-LITE debacle that we’ve come to know and love now. I want to know, from the company, what the MARKED TO MARKET portfolio is valued at these days.

Why do I want to know that? I look at Merrill Lynch, Washington Mutual, Bear Stearns and the other culprits here in this debacle and I’m seeing multi billion write downs. $5 billion at Merrill…basically all the quarterly earnings for WaMu…it’s all being recognized and they are taking the hit to earnings and book value much as they should. GAAP rules dictate that.

I am going on record here to say that we don’t get to the bottom of this mortgage debacle until we find out that number. And once we find out that number, we find out just how willing the Government is to bail out FNM and / or FRE. $4 trillion, with a 5% haircut is $200 billion. FNM and FRE’s equity, combined is about 1/3 of that. Does that make you wonder why both of these Government Sponsored Entities have been floating preferred stock lately? $500 million at a clip… It’s because they’re raising equity in the only way they can!

I think we see this number - be it $100, $200 or $300 billion - and we see one or both of these GSE’s come to the brink of being basically zeroed out on equity, and its THEN that we find out just how willing the government is to back these groups with "full faith and credit".

Up until we see that number, all the interest rate cuts in the world aren’t going to help - they’re only going to prolong the situation and kill off our US Dollar. "

"a case study for miraculously surviving a massive heart attack."

redclaydawg- glad to hear you made it...youngest brother is a radiologist->simple yet effective calcium scoring test (heart scan) can alert most people at risk of heart attack due to narrowing of the arteries...not yet on the radar screen for health insurers but should be soon...paid less than 500 out-of-pocket at a local hospital for mine a couple of years ago, it can provide peace of mind, or save your life...

The the market direction will turn when psychology turns and the reaction to the news cycle shifts. Be looking for negative news that can no longer be turned into good news. At some point good news will become bad news. Reasons to sell will take over reasons to buy. It always happens. With the Fed on the sideline, or so they say, this cycle might be starting to happen.

Anyone else here a rumor in New York city this morning that Standard & Poor's is going to down grade all the CDOs (Collateralized Debt Obligations) today.

Denny,

I'm in SKF @ $72.00 and am struggling with the same question.

I'm considering letting SOME go up here although my target is $100+.

Longer term, you just gotta think SKF is going higher.

Good luck.

BH-Yes long-term it seems right. I guess I was wondering how you would play it using technicals short-term.

I got long GSX during the drop.

Denny,

Admittedly, I'm not much of a technician but there are some good ones in here. Hopefully, one or more of them will chime in.

Regards.

Denny,

Admittedly, I have poor technical skills but there are some crackerjack technicians in here. Hopefully, one of them will chime in.

Regards.

SKF....read Bill's comment on C. Maybe a trailing stop?

Thank you for that very valuable information re: calcium scoring test, 2nd_Ave.

Redclaydawg, so glad you're back with us!

Re. SKF Management.

Denny / Bull Hunter -

I see that some Nov./Dec. call options are being traded now. Wide spread, almost no liquidity, but maybe a way to lock-up some value on extreme sentiment moves. E.g. Dec. $90 call (SKFLL) $6.60/$7.70.

JML

Aussieontop and Jock,
A fellow subscriber,elsewhere, was kind of enough to share some exploration tickers for further study. He attended the conference in NO, met with these companies and liked them.
NG; VGZ; QTA.V; EPZ.V; VGQ.TO

Shorted $GOLD at 4:29 AM @ 792.71 - I overslept and missed the UK open, which I had suspected would begin a strong downward move. I joined the move as soon as I saw it was strong and continuing.

As soon as it dropped sufficiently I adjusted my stop aggresively so I could sleep, knowing I would not wake up to a loss of more than $100. I set my take profit limit pretty far down, at a $782, for a potential gain of roughly 1000/contract, or 333 on a mini gold.

When I woke up and saw I was several hundred points in the green I adjusted my stop down aggressively again, so I could ride the subway to work in peace, knowing I would, at worst, be stopped out for a small gain. I also contemplated moving my profit target down, but it was already a bit too greedy. Mentally pimp-slapped myself for letting greed poke it's head out.

Arriving at work, I saw with pleasure I was well over $700 in the green, and I plotted out the well-defined downward price channel that had formed. I adjusted my stop down again (that's moving a stop down on a short, so it's OK) My stop was set just above the peak of the previous large price reversal, set to stop me out should it break up out of the channel. I expected any channel breakout to be strong. I was right.

$GOLD broke up srongly out of the channel, hit my stop and I was out of the trade at 788.02 at 10:26 AM. $GOLD continued upward out of the channel.

I contemplated:

1. My thanks to my stops for locking my gains

2. My thanks to myself for plotting and planning my trade exit around the price channel I was given. That proved very helpful in planning to where I would move my stop.

Most importantly,

3. I focused on forgetting the over $775 in open gains I had at one point, but instead congratulated myself on the $469/gold contract I managed to succeed in obtaining.

4. I also noted my strong instinct to not just close, but reverse the trade. It was correct. $GOLD had begun a move back up. However, I didn't do it because I'm easing back into this kind of trading, and I do not want to recklessly jump in and out without being careful and as in control as I can be. I thanked myself for not jumping like that, and instead closing my deliberate trade and avoiding the impulsive one.

This will be my life for the next few months as I observe myself, the market and my actions within it. 8:30 AM, 2:30 PM, 7:30 PM and 3:30 AM will each mark critical points to enter or exit and to look carefully for reversals of existing trades.

All my observations and lessons will be codified into a written trading plan, as I spend the next month or so easing back into it and developing a plan and discipline. Other available time will be spent developing my intermarket analysis tools and techniques, to give me as many views into the macro and micro elements of the market I am trading.

I already have my first three trading rules:

1. Protect my capital

2. Protect my capital

3. At all costs, protect my capital.

I took myself out before with sloppy trading. Never again.

(OK, I admit, I'm beginning this live trading using the Oanda gold/usd currency pair and tiny trading lots. My gains were $4.69/contract and not $469. But my psychology, rules and executions are in the development phase. I expect a month or so using this platform to test myself scalping $GOLD, which this pair mirrors, to get my approach squared away, and hone my sense of market rhythm. Then I plan to move on to CBOT gold minis. Right now, this is me in training wheels.)

ALOHA !!

Telenetworxx ... The loan facility for WGI/WGDFF in my opinion, was a horrible deal, but this seems to be "par for the course" with Barrick execs, since Barrick financed many a deal this way in the past. I am not saying the management is bad I am saying the loan is! If WGI/WGDDF cannot repay the loan ASAP then you could say management made a bad decision.

Right now it is okay at $801, but when the POG goes over $801 it is not. Six years is a long time and I expect the POG will be above $801 for most of that six years and not by a little bit! You just have to look at first year actual production to get a feel for how this effects their bottom line.

I do not like these non-recourse loans and I have said so many times in the past. Because of that I did not stay in WGI/WGDDF ... I did buy WGI but I sold shortly after they announced this loan. Yes, I missed out on the share price rise, but that is how I operate. I also do not buy Russia and China ... C'est la vi ...

What I am saying is that you should do your own due diligence and determine your own stance regarding "non-recourse" hedged loans. It is not an urgent matter at this point but it could be within 12 months and beyond. It boils down to added "risk" ... In an industry where risk is 90% and luck is 10% piling up more risk is unacceptable. I think WGI/WGDDF could have made a better deal on a loan, but I am no CEO.

In the coming years funding will be increasingly harder to find and many juniors may have to resort to such tactics more increasingly at first year production. What's the alternative to costly and risky financing?

I am looking at "micro mining" techniques now that may become more accepted instead of the usual think BIG ... which somehow seems to find its way to BIG DEBT and BIG DILUTION with BIG HEDGING! This is where first year start-up production budgets can be in the $11mil to $14mil range not the $100mil plus. I kind of figured this out listening to my own rants about BIG GOVERNMENT and the huge advantages that a "small" government could afford US citizens. Well, why not apply that concept to shareholders and mining companies? It comes down to a matter of profit not ounces! Remember just because a junior explorer starts up production does not mean they are now 100% "safe" and out of the woods forever!

As inflation ravages the Earth more and more "micro" will be the new "go-to" solution for many businesses. Out of frustration from lousy employee pools from unions my electrical contracting biz went "small"! We reversed course and got to the point where just my partner and I could pull off $2mil+ jobs with "casual" labor. We worked seven days a week, but we also "took home" BIG HUGE annual pay checks! As my ex-mentor Russian boss used to tell me ... "Nyet ... Mondevoshka ... if you do it wrong once you lose twice not once!" HA!! You can never "really" make up losses can you? I should know ... The only thing losses are good for is the learning experience, but ... A life without losses is a life never really lived! And so it goes ... there is no escape!

Denny, Bull Hunter:

Also not a crackerjack technician, but I noticed a lot of money flowing into XLF (Financial Select Sector SPDR Fund ) this AM mostly from block trades. So it appears some institutional money is betting on the upside of this sector (at least for this AM)

jumble, boy it would be excellent if i knew what any of that was that you said. Off to investopedia.

someone traded 20000 shares of wgdff at 11:26...have they seen a top?

Craig, Jumble and RobBoss,

Thank you for your always welcome input.

Regards.

Trend Portfolio

Looks like the downturn is here. SPY trend is down as indicated by the 22 week and 22 day moving average slope and looks like will close at lowest level of past 3 days.

At the moment I write this, there are only 7 of the cara100's up today. Shorting HOV, BBBY today.

http://tinyurl.com/yoe5j2 - Portfolio
http://tinyurl.com/34tqpz - Forecasts

RobBoss, the price of XLF is down today though, so you're saying block trades means institutions are buying?

Re: When to hold them, and when to fold them. (SKF)

I have to force myself to step back and ignore the daily gyrations. (Trading on a daily basis is not an option for me.) It is a very difficult task, but Bill has taught me very valuable lessons is 1) ignoring the talking heads, and 2) using RSI to step into and out of positions you believe in. Everyone in the Cara Community is dead on in seeing what the results of HB&B and CB actions will be in the future and seeing the trends in the markets, and the trick for me was to intelligently play the currents I see out there. To illustrate that point, I posted this not too long ago:

I opened a position in SRS (Short Real Estate) today, to add some short exposure to my portfolio. I have a couple of reasons why I saw today as a good entry. First, I saw the daily RSI for SRS pop back above 30, and volume increase. IYR (Dow Jones US Real Estate has had a nice counter trend bear market rally from it's lows, and it's Daily RSI is above 70)... SRS is the anti IYR. Second, with Gold and Oil, heck with all commodities in rally mode pushing into new territory, interest rates (bond rates) will respond to the upside in my opinion. This will further weigh on an industry already in much pain and clearly defined downtrend. In at 80.20. My two cents.

Posted by: Hoosier [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 4:34 PM

Nothing that has occurred in the past few weeks has me concerned that this downtrend will reverse. I'm still holding.

Denny -

If you own more than 100 shares of SKF, place an offer to sell a covered call at a premium/strike that suits your expectations and/or reflect extreme moves in SKF.

You could also place an offer to sell outside of recent trading ranges to capture some of the wacky extreme trading that occurs with high momentum moves (like today's open).

As an aside, I don't know why today raises your urgency for an off-ramp unless your view has changed. We still haven't taken last week's highs out. In doubt, tighten your stops.

JML

kaimu,
That's why I like small oils that show existing production. Small can be big to individuals like us, if it goes well.

Finger Lakes, my opinion - CROCS, the shoes, are a fad. One day people will look back at photos of themselves wearing these ugly things and cringe, like 70s haircuts and plaid pants. But I'm no fashion expert. One look would tell anyone that. I thought CROX would choke long before they hit 50-something/share, and I was wrong. I may be wrong again and again on this. I still fail to see how a grown man can put these things on their feet and go out in public. But I'm against mandals, too.

basketguy - I wish we had Noodle here, still. He would know the answer to that. Does anybody know what happened to that guy?

re: Talking heads - it's not just FETV, it's the regular news, too. I tuned in to some CNN show and I could not believe the way the talking heads were speaking. Do they think they are speaking to a fifth grade class? Is that really the way the bulk of TV watchers want to be spoken too? Simple, overstated, declarative senetences, no complex ideas, etc. It's revolting and sad.

GSX - shark! Make that little pump out there in the middle of nowhere work hard for you!

WGDFF - 801 hedge. Shame on you. Or your bankers.

Denny:

Buying into weakness as evidenced by positive money flow.

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Jasper - Thanks for submitting those symbols of new "juniors". I have been taking down all the names that appear on the blog, and urge everyone else to present their "nominations".

I hope we can develop a well-considered set of criteria (with input from the community) against which to screen and rank our top 100. For example:

Kaimu - I thought your post on what might be called "junior juniors" was very thought-provoking. How can we judge at exploration or early development stage which juniors may - by operating small - avoid pressures to raise big capital via non-recourse loans and hedging? Clearly, it IS about profit than ounces.

Also, the discussion of GBN.V was great. Keep it coming!

Jasper - Thanks for submitting those symbols of new "juniors". I have been taking down all the names that appear on the blog, and urge everyone else to present their "nominations".

I hope we can develop a well-considered set of criteria (with input from the community) against which to screen and rank our top 100. For example:

Kaimu - I thought your post on what might be called "junior juniors" was very thought-provoking. How can we judge at exploration or early development stage which juniors may - by operating small - avoid pressures to raise big capital via non-recourse loans and hedging? Clearly, it IS about profit than ounces.

Also, the discussion of GBN.V was great. Keep it coming!

Bill,

Thank you for the link.

Out of all but 25% position in WGDFF.
I made so much on this one. I started accumulating at approx. 1.90 and with gold so overbought and the hedging news it's time to take some off the table. Like Arnold and MacArthur, I'll be back.

Thanx RobBoss.
Jumble, got it--tighten stops. No I don't think anythings changed in the outlook other than getting worse. If you want to read something hair-raising about the credit markets, Brian Pretti's commentary today at contraryinvestor.com will do it (subscriber).

Further to the GBN.V discussion, if the company has earnings of 10¢ a share after all is said and done, this means a P/E of $1.40. Even if its 5 - 6¢ a share, then we presume a P/E of 14 to take the share price to a fair value of 60 - 82¢.

The numbers presented at this stage in their economic analysis have already been surpassed, and they are looking at viability to their project based on some very conservative numbers with a knee-capping top cut on their grades.

The final question is, will they dilute further to go at mining all at once, or will they present paradigm changing news in the coming weeks to bolster the share price?

As the CEO says, it all depends on the share price now.

Denny,

Another thought on SKF, in the short term. The BubbleVision shills will no doubt be screaming to buy the banks tonight and tomorrow morning.

They know that the S&P is doomed without them.

I may lock in some profits today and look to reload on the "dead bank bounce".

Denny - For those of us who aren't subscribers to contraryinvestor.com, could you post the article (don't know if there are restrictions)or provide the thesis of what the author was postulating?

Thanks in advance.

AlanM, wish I could but it wouldn't be fair to subscribers. The cost is very reasonable.

ValGold Announces $3.5 Million Non-Brokered Private Placement and Updates Drill Program on Mochila Gold Program

http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/071101/200711010422639001.html?.v=1

............This could explain some of the recent narrowing of the stock in the $.33-$.35 range recently

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Jock,

As long as we are throwing out names, I bought a small position on Roxmark RMK.V which is a Geraldton-Beardmore play and has some property adjacent to Kodiak - KXL.v. They have a JV with Premier Gold and own an existing mill. Many of there properties were mined for periods in the 1930s/40s until gold prices went down. Now trading at $.30 a share.

“NEW YORK, Nov 1 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve added a total of $41 billion in temporary reserves to the banking system on Thursday, the biggest single day of such injections since September 2001.”

I thought some readers might find this info about Google Finance useful. I use Google Finance to help me help me to get a 'glance' at the market, and two to keep track of company events. For example, with the link Bill posted of the retailers, I created a watch portfolio to immediately gauge their activity. The second, (most valuable), thing I do is then go to that portfolio and have a calender of all those companies' events put into my Google Calendar, which I use for personal scheduling. Never lose track of an earnings release again!

http://www.wallstreetfollies.com/2000/CPIcafeMenu.gif

Bill,
How would you handle short term t-bills?
How short term? Would you ladder over one to three mos or just keep it to 30 days?

Would you use something like SHV?

Hoosier,
I use Google Finance to create watch lists, as well. I like the way it pulls in news for the items on your watch lists.

That's cool because I can make lists and there might be some news on one company that I don't check so often. When I go into Google Finance, the article will be right there as a reminder to see what's up. I also really like their charts.

I wish there were a way to show thumbnail 6 month charts of an entire watch list, too. I could scan the whole list at a glance. That way I can see that, yeah, a name is up 6.8%, but it's just recovering from a huge drop and doesn't amount to much, or maybe I can spot that it's a reversal, or a continuation of a breakout. That would be very helpful.

Another good feature - it's possible to export and import watch lists, if you want to share.

"Dead bank bounce." That's pretty funny, BH.

How about "Dead bank walking" for the ones that haven't fully blown up yet?

MikeNYC,
I agree about how ugly Crocs are. I would never buy a pair. But ever since Coach I try to never argue with a strong trend. I actually got screwed by them in March when I bought June puts and just kept getting creamed little by little every day. Who would figure they would keep cranking? The fundamentals are still sound though. The only question I have now is how long will it take to burn off the overhead supply created today? June 08 calls may be better than March 08.

Bill,
I too asked the same questions about C and XOM. It seems to me that we're not hearing the full truth yet about the credit crisis or about how the dollar's decline is hurting domestic energy companies.

Rob.

Hoosier and MikeNYC,
I use Google Finace to watchlist Canadian PM and oil/gas stocks. I use free Morningstar portfolios to watchlist anything in the U.S. because it provides historical information and key ratios.

Nice move by GLBL. Although earnings and revenue down, conference call covered a lot including 695 Mil backlog. Pending bids 3.4 Bil. Like foreign exposure. (Small long position).

Si02---Think it was optionoracle who had the post you reference. Agreed with his call. I did place an order on some XOM puts at bid yesterday which unfortunately didn’t hit while I was away. Haven’t checked financials, but suspect the crack spread didn’t help.

Redclaydawg---congratulations, hope you make the best of it. Good luck! Although some of these cases are genetics, exercise & diet go a long way. Always have found regular exercise helps with overall performance, concentration, feeling better. Actually, heading to the gym shortly.

Positives about crocs going forward:

-They are making many different designs now, and not all of them will be "ugly".
-quickly expanding internationally.
-The material from which they are made is excellent, and cannot be copied easily (not patented, but a trade secret so no one can easily figure out the process and copy it). the material is feather light and non-marking.
-my 2 year old son wore them all summer and never wanted to wear anything else. big hit with little kids and parents, especially b/c they are relatively cheap ($25 a pair).

Note: never had a position, just trying to provide information.

120 pm- AAPL/GOOG/RIMM all in the green..

What's the deal with HOS [Hornbeck Offshore Services] they're up 13% [5.05] today.

Wooow..another "Would of ..could of..should of...

Few weeks ago I had a large position.. today zip!

%$#@%& !

:-)

RMK.V - Thanks for mentioning this junior, Billy Sundance. I just wish you'd told us about it in mid October - just before it nearly DOUBLED in ONE DAY! - wow.

another benefit of google finance - the sector watch. i like how you can just scroll over a color an it tells you the % of stocks in the sector that are up or down. i just wish they would move things along a little quicker and get out of perpetual beta.

anyone noticing the collapse in wheat today..
TOP IN GRAINS IS IN..
ONE MORE COMMODITY GROUP TO BITE THE DUST..
NEXT OIL AND GOLD..

cycle top is here

Optionoracle: thank you. Your posts are always a good read. Your call was right on.

Canadian dollar hit it's highest level since the 1800's last night (hitting a modern-day high of US$1.0617). The BNN tax programs repeatedly have people asking what to do with tax losses on the US market. They lose on the exchange, even though DJIA and others are up - on paper - for the year.

Short gold at 788.850.

Regarding Crocs....

The health care industry loves them... certainly not for their looks. They are very comfortable, relatively cheap, and easy to clean....Just throw into the washing machine to remove unwanted bodily fluids. They are not going away. If anything, they are becoming more of an institutionalized habit.

And red dawn.... I would HIGHLY suggest that you do some layman research into nutritional causes of atherosclerosis. I would start with Linus Pauling and vitamin C.

Sincerely,

Hi,

As I connect several news for the day, I suspect something serious happened to Citibank today:

1. C has gapped down seriously.

2. The FED had to make a hudge cash injection.

3. SPX testing 1520 for the third time today as I type: apparently it held.

Hmmmm

Less than 24 hours since their last rate cut fix, and the junkies are already having withdrawal symptoms.

Too funny. :^)

Hi again,

Yes, 1520 on the SPX held...for the time being.

This market is sitting on very thin ice.

GROW,

This asset mangmt company was mentioned a while back. Being long is not in vogue, but the mutual fund products are pretty amazing...the gold one with frank holmes at the helm is small cap, low expenses, and good yield. Today I took half of a position in the underlying company/grow. Curious if anyone else acquired since its mention.

Not ONE of the retailers on Bill's list is up...

That was fast. Up 150 in seconds, and almost as fast a reversal stopped me out at 788.80. The .05 gain covers my transaction costs. Capital protected. Mission accomplished. Thank you, Mike, for setting your stops properly.

CROCS - thanks for filling me in, everybody. I get it a little better now. I do wonder if the miracle plastic is enough of a 'moat' in the long run. I bet there's a hundred factories in china ramping up to clone them.

Hoosier,

Yep.

Makes me want to laugh when I see the pump monkeys saying that the holiday season will be great...

As Bill has taught us: keep your eye on the ball...

1520- n2son, you really called that line in the sand...3rd assault on it today...

Opened MSFT Dec Puts @ 37.50
Opened ALL Jan Puts @ 50
Opened EMC Jan Calls @ 22.50
Opened MYL Jan Calls @ 15

Just got back from 9 holes. Loving the action in my GSX, they've got a call tomorrow I expect a rally into it and maybe after. Anyway the price was right as were the conditions. It is only under duress that we extract the fullest value from our trading partners.

If you need a gold stock Gammon looks ok here long.

Anyone heard this before???

Gold shares offer greater leverage than bullion
12:01a ET November 1, 2007 (MarketWatch)
Editor's note: Thomas B. Winmill has managed the Midas Fund since 2002 and has been president of the fund's investment manager since 1995. Winmill is a member of the American Institute of Mining, Metallurgical, and Petroleum Engineers. The Midas Fund owns shares in NovaGold Resources, Northern Dynasty Minerals and Anglo-American.

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Reserve kept the markets afloat with a Halloween rate cut. As a result, we expect gold to rise as the dollar weakens and U.S. growth remains buoyant.

But questions remain over the future of the U.S. economy.

Since mid-August, gold has run up about 18%, and we anticipate more safe-haven buying of gold. But, the gold bullion market itself appears to become increasingly volatile as some investors take profits after the recent run up and while others continue to buy seeking a financial safe-haven.

Bullion is a relatively conservative way to invest in gold; investing in the physical metals, however, requires special considerations such as the need for custodial arrangements to store the metal and the creditworthiness of the custodian.

Purchasing equities in gold mining companies, offers greater leverage, and risk, than direct ownership of bullion, but requires substantial research and analysis on the part of the investor.

The greater leverage comes from the operating leverage inherent in an operating mining company. One problem with some gold mining companies, however, is that their mines are often found in some of the most politically unstable and corrupt countries in the world.

For investors able to shoulder the risk of equities for the additional potential upside, we would suggest looking at two interesting situations where investing in a gold company offers leverage to the gold price, and mitigation of the political risk: NovaGold Resources and Northern Dynasty Minerals .

NovaGold Resources, with about 105 million shares outstanding, has four big North American based projects. Three are located in Alaska -- Donlin Creek, Rock Creek, and Ambler -- and one is in British Columbia; Galore Creek.

A key date for NovaGold is Nov. 13. On that day the market should get further clarity on the company's biggest project, Donlin Creek. Currently, the company owns 70% of this deposit, which NovaGold claims contains about 33 million gold ounces in the measured and indicated and inferred resource categories. Gold mining giant Barrick Gold is NovaGold's joint venture partner, with a 30% interest. Barrick has an option to earn an additional 40% (increasing its interest to 70% and reducing NovaGold's interest to 30%) if it can meet certain conditions by Nov. 13. NovaGold said Barrick can't possibly meet the conditions.

Last year, Barrick offered $14.50 for all of NovaGold. Barrick later raised its bid to $16. That was when gold prices were in the $600 to $625 range.

Will Barrick again bid for NovaGold this month? It might. Or maybe it will work out a deal with NovaGold. In any event, it could be very beneficial for NovaGold shareholders because the market does not seem to be ascribing much more than a 30% ownership interest in the project to NovaGold at this time.

Northern Dynasty Minerals Ltd., with about 96 million shares outstanding, and Anglo-American , a mining giant, are developing one of the world's largest copper-gold-molybdenum projects, located in Alaska, in a 50/50 partnership. Northern Dynasty has described the project, called Pebble, as one of "a very few advanced stage world-class mining projects." That's probably true, and it's certainly one of the few located on American soil.

The catalyst for Northern Dynasty? Rio Tinto, another mining giant, has been purchasing shares of Northern Dynasty. It has brought its total to about 19.79% so far. Will it go all the way and buy the rest of the company? Our guess is that Rio is not buying just for investment -- it wants operating control.

As a final investing note, investors might also consider gold mutual funds, which offer diversification and day-to day management.

In any event, gold investing may be a good opportunity for many Americans to hedge a potential loss in the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar. Perhaps we should be thankful on Nov. 22 this year that not only is the United States government the largest owner of gold bullion in the world -- but that its land contains some of the largest and most attractive gold deposits.

Information provided by , PRNewswire, Businesswire, News provided by , Copyright ©2007. All rights reserved.
3rd Party Research Disclosure /wwws-14:41:56

I think I've said shares=leverage about 10 times in the past week. Nice to see that.

Shark, that was pretty slick buying GSX on that hard dip this morning. That took some guts.

Bill, Thanks for the input. I've got an opportunity to re-consider the timing.

If you haven't seen his latest quick post, it gave me a good chuckle. http://www.slopeofhope.com/

moneygenie........ thanks for the post about NovaGold Resources & Northern Dynasty

So 1520 falls....

"catch a falling star and put it in your pocket....save it for a rainy day...." A song from the Sixties.

I see knives falling now.

If you squint your eyes this 4 mo. SKF chart looks like a dragon.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

Ah, it may not resolve to the right page. But check out the 4 mo. SKF chart.

Note FWR, the last NOT sibling that has not taken off, up on 6x volume. Riding it since .26.

Jasper, I have been trading GROW for a while, and I am still holding a large position in it. However, I am seriously considering cutting it in half now. GROW is best correlated with gold, and so it will most likely be falling for the next few days. They have an earnings release on Nov. 5 at 12noon ET, and I will place a buy stop order on GROW right before the announcement, to catch an upmove, if it happens.

Bill, that would be great for the website. The only thing I'm waiting for with google is some technical analysis and charting tools... if you had all that here, your site would become a one stop shop. Also, for those who aren't googlephiles, another great feature is using the iGoogle homepage of your own design to custom create your own finance page. No longer locked into a design box.

http://googlefinanceblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/api-gadgets-and-tabs-oh-my.html

ETRADE account now frozen....

Must Be SELLIN SELLIN SELLIN

Wow, this selloff is agressive. Once oil and tech rolls over the real selling will begin. There are a lot people wedded to their oil stocks.

1500/1490 is the bull/bear line. Draw that line on a daily chart of the S&P and you will see why.

I missed buying Anadigics this morning by 10 cents on my limit order and it launched from there. Oh well, I'll just ride my shorts.

David,
I got out today. Not good to buy just before earnings release,plus Bill's input. Did you see the 10k plus shares jump earlier the day? This year it has been a huge underperformer of GLD. Grow is down 25% and and gld is up 25%...but I can see periods where the two trade close. thx for commentary.

Jock,
I bought in on RMK.V at .13, still holding but...
I confess, I bought it by mistake because I misread the resource estimate amounts for the Moly: 72,000 tons at 1.04%Mo per ton? I thought they had 72,000 tons of moly!!! Cheers

Jasper, GROW started underperforming gold since their earnings announcement two quarters ago, when they said that their income from advisory fees fell a little because the big financial companies started getting stingy cut down on their service requests. That's when I started buying GROW on the way down, because this line of business is periferal to GROW, as they get most of their income from managing their mutual funds. As I have indicated earlier, their two largest funds are UNWPX (gold) and PSPFX (oil), and so any divergence between performance of these funds and GROW is a buying opportunity.

re: yesterday's FOMC statement.

The second sentence of commentary by the FOMC stated "the pace of economic expansion will likely slow in the near term..." We don't believe this is a forecast from the FOMC (they save their formal forecasts for the twice yearly report to Congress by the Fed Chairman). We believe the Board of Governors already knows that economic growth so far in the fourth quarter is well below the solid growth of the third quarter, hence the FOMC felt compelled to pre-announce what many already suspect is taking place in the economy.

The fallout: risk of lowered earnings expectations/guidance and therefore lower stock prices is increasing. Technically though, the market still has a positive bias, although a few more days like today and a downside bias will come into play. If we do get a big move down going into year-end, then the inverted yield curve that started last August and the more recent inversion between fed funds and the 2-Year T-note yield will have once again signalled the downturn in the stock market. Stay tuned, as there may be some great buying opportunities in the stock market 4-8 weeks from now! http://www.2globalmarkets.com

LVS: down $27 after hours at 105

yaba - we get it any way we can ! - Wish my mistakes were profitable!

FWIW

After reading a post by MarkM to track juniors during the good and the bad times and see which are strong over a period of time I decided to invest in 20 juniors; 100 shares each to see their performance. The top 5 performers were:

Symbol date purchased % gain

ANO 9/11/07 72%
CGEXF.PK 9/19/07 145%
GXEXF.PK 9/11/07 83%
NOT.V 9/19/07 73%
WGDFF.OB 9/11/07 47%

I know the time period is rather short as a test, and that these can be very volatile, but it is something I am going to continue to monitor. I will be adding per a list of stocks Bill published recently.

The overall % gain for the 20 juniors was 20.65%

Fast Money just asked if we should be concerned that Jim Cayne of Bear Stearns smoked a joint in the last three years. Too funny, how many people would like to have a stiff drink today?

Jock/Yaba

I wish I could have told you all about RMK.V before it doubled, but unfortunately I did not know about it then either! I have my cost basis at $0.26. I am also jealous of your mistakes Yaba - mine have not been so profitable!

CROX traded almost its entire float of stock today. Talk about nervous investors. The news wasn't even bad, just didn't meet meteoric expectations.

I actually might buy it at the right price. They are expanding international sales and into clothing.

I think it is hilarious that Crocs is a household brand name now. I lived in Boulder, CO for a bunch of years where the company was started. A local clothing/trinkets store my friend worked at started selling them I want to say in 2000 or 2001. The company founders spent many a night in the Mexican resteraunt my friend managed, drinking margaritas and coming up with plans for the company.

My initial reaction to seeing the shoes in 2000/2001 was how unattractive they were. Low and behold they made the cover of the WSJ shortly thereafter, IPO a few years later, and you know the rest......I guess I wasn't cut out to be a retail analyst b/c unfortunately, I didn't buy any shares

Re. Tempted by CROX?

As a veteran knife catcher (and my hands today show honest bleeding from recent retail-related ventures), I have had a hard time getting the fascination with CROX, except that their fast growth was an inviting terrain for momentum players and parabolic-thrill-seekers. Against my own mind, I even considered shorting out of incomprehension; you sure know the kind:it's- going-so-out-of-whack-and-so-high-so-fast-that-it-must-be-a-short. Never pulled the trigger, though.

For all the admirable growth this company may enjoy worldwide and beyond kids' novelty/fashion (the cruelest retail space, worse IMO than teens), CROX remains tonight with a market cap equal that of DECK (another explosive darling)+WWW or TBL+SKX+BWS+SHOO+KCP - all mainstay of the footwear industry. For all their comfort, I can't believe that crocs are a game-changer on par with sneakers and will create an empire (albeit on a way smaller scale) similar to NKE. Footwear is among the simplest categories to imitate; so reports of Chinese factories gearing up for lookalikes (slated for WMT? TGT?) are not encouraging.

I am sure that there is money to be made in a rebound at some point in time and price. Good luck and kudos to the traders who can master these situations. Just be careful out there; all great growth stories go through a similar path when a sharp drop at the end of the initial fast growth period looks like a buying opportunity that traps a second wave of bagholders (those who missed the first burst).

JML

Bill,

Thanks for your comments. I have been accumulating juniors from post's on the blog and articles I've read about other juniors. I know investing in these is part gamble (the jockey) and part review of mining results, but as Aussieontop says the few great ones can make a lot of money if you keep your positions in order. For a $5000 investment this is a fun portfolio to watch and learn from. I am so looking forward to the report you and Jock will be putting out. I have assembled about 40 juniors total and will be happy to forward them to you.

Thanks again for all your insight. jfs

Denny Phelps, November 1, 2007 3:28 PM

"If you squint your eyes this 4 mo. SKF chart looks like a dragon.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

Ah, it may not resolve to the right page. But check out the 4 mo. SKF chart."

Is this what you were looking at, yes I have to squint a bit.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SKF&p=D&yr=0&mn=4&dy=0&id=p23036216176

You need to click the "linkable version" button just below the chart, then the coding will be added after the ..sc/ui.. which specifies the chart symbol and settings.

I want to share one of my Google Finance Portfolios, if anyone is interested. This is a list of oil companies that trade on US exchanges and are priced between 1-4 dollars. I call it 'US Traded Oil 1-4' US exchanges because for me Canadian shares have a much higher commission, so I wanted to see what was out there, and below 4 because I was looking to see if I could find some quality in cheaper shares.

WARNING: These are not the highest quality companies. There is often a reason they are cheap.

However, this list is how GSX came to my attention and that resulted in a good short-term trade, and it seems to be really working for Shark.

NASDAQ:MPET AMEX:END AMEX:AOG AMEX:FPP AMEX:CHQ AMEX:GSX NYSE:ENT NYSE:TMR NASDAQ:BDCO AMEX:EPM NASDAQ:ROYL NASDAQ:HUSA OTC:TFLG AMEX:PDO AMEX:GPR AMEX:ABP NYSE:EGY

Here's how I developed it:

First, I use the MSN Deluxe Stock Screener. This is a pretty nice free screener with decent categories and a nice interface. It's not the standard Stock Screen tool, you have to look for the link to Deluxe Screener. Then an ActiveX control is installed, I think.

After I searched by exchange, industry and price range, I looked up each one in Google Finance. A few I chucked out immediately because they had no volume, and/or crazy bid/ask spreads, or some real bad news popped up in the News portion of it's Google Finance page.

I did that three times for each major exchange and came up with the list you see here. The MSN Screener will not screen OTC BB companies, so there may be some more companies in this category worth adding to the list. I don't know.

Have fun.

PS I recommend looking at the "About Google Finance" link at the bottom of the page. It explains all the features. Sadly, there is no way to have shared portfolios. That would have been a great way to share our lists.

Another great free Google tool:

Google Alerts.

These are emailed alerts you can set up for any keywords or combination of keywords.

I set one up for every company I own, and for any commodities I am tracking. For example, if I want to know what is happening with cotton, I set up several comprehensive (Blogs, News, AND Web pages,) 'deliver immediately' alerts.

That way I can see news that the cotton stocks in India are high, or cotton yields in the US are low, or farmers are rioting in India because wholesalers are ripping them off, or China has or is expected to increased cotton imports, or learn about a drought affecting cotton. On and on. I'll set up one for "cotton prices" and another for "cotton market" and whatever else I can think of.

I set one up for each company, so if there is bad or good news, or a 10K filing, or some blogger posts an analysis related to the stock, I'll get a link sent to me, either right away (always for shares I own!) or daily for something that is not so critical.

I HIGHLY recommend this or a similar service for any share you own that is of importance.

For commodities, it is amazing what a feel you can get for a market, once the news about, say, coffee, starts pouring in from local newspapers India, Brazil, Colombia, the exchanges, the wires, the blogs, etc. You can almost feel where it might be trending to, if you really absorb the information flow. Or maybe I fool myself I can, anyway.

Some examples of my alerts (each one is a separate alert:)

"cotton crop"
"cotton prices"
+cotton +market +price
wgdff
"western goldfields"
"rare earth elements"
"The Bank Credit Analyst"
"tropical storm"
foreclosures
+well +announced +abandoned +oil
+"central bank" +gold
+chavez +oil +euro
homebuilders
"tom waits"
(oops, how did that get in there? I'm dying to see Tom Waits in concert, which he rarely does, so I don't want to miss the announcement!)

I think you can get the idea. Now that I have this kind of tool, I don't know how I could get by without it.

MikeNYC,

You can share portfolios in a roundabout fashion. I think it will be a great resource for the community. It's a couple step solution, but I think it will serve it's purpose. You can use the "Download to spreadsheet" function and then upload the spreadsheet into Google documents, and then publish. It appears in spreadsheet form instead of google finance, (fixed if you do the reverse as above), but it serves it's sharing purpose.

Cara 100
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pD3-dUhPtySty595-ECUIEg

Bill, many thanks for the Cara 100 list to zap into Google.... I've been meaning to type them all in.

I think it can save work and help share ideas.

That 'US Oil 1-4' actually took a bit of time to create. I think I might be able to speed it up next time. The MSN screener can export, I think, but I don't know if the format is compatible with Google. But I also took time to do at least a quick review of each one and toss the obvious dreck. I left the 'possibly dreck' because, well, it's stocks from $1-$4. I wasn't looking for Cinderella, maybe just a dance with her ugly sister.

It can really help, if we share screens this way. Like if someone makes "Gold Explorers ex Chavez and Morales" or something, it would be great to share that. The possibilities are endless. 'Eastern European Oils Over 1 Billion w/ADRs' on and on. 'US/Can Traded Oils with African Operations.' You can slice and dice it any way you want, as long as some one of us wants to put in the effort to make a particular list. There are a lot of folks with a lot of interests here. (Not just gold and funny shoes, I hope! ;-) )

My TSX Chinese Portfolio. Is it time to buy Sino Forest yet?

TSE:AHD TSE:SVU TSE:MSV TSE:SVM TSE:HMZ TSE:HF TSE:MUN TSE:KIH TSE:DDD TSE:MMM TSE:PCN TSE:TRE TSE:GCX TSE:JIN TSE:ICI TSE:ACG TSE:WXI TSE:TVI TSE:ZIC TSE:NEM TSE:SWG

Google Finance doesn't like me too much. First I blow up their Google Reader product because of the # of news feeds I watch, then apparently they can't handle having every TSX stock sector in my portfolio... & Bill's 100.

A daily picklist of 2ndaves & other trades mentioned on the site would be very interesting to see, as would the information we gathered from the Cara stock research teams.

Google alerts is great. You can also filter out items with minus eg. Venezuela -Chavez or search for items between numbers eg. 1..500 billion otional. Basically anything you can do with Google.

Some Google finance hacks...

http://www.yourcreditadvisor.com/blog/2007/03/become_a_google.html

Ultra Long & Short ETFs in USD.

BRPIX ENPSX EPL387 OEPSX OTPSX QID QLD RYAMX SDS ULPSX UVPSX UWPSX UXPIX

TSX Tech Sector... don't put this one in unless you have lots of computer power.

TSE:ONE TSE:TWT TSE:AAH TSE:ABT TSE:IQ TSE:ACG TSE:AXX TSE:AZD TSE:BLD TSE:BLZ TSE:BYT TSE:BH TSE:BRT TSE:CAE TSE:CTY TSE:CMH TSE:CRL TSE:CLS TSE:CIC TSE:CWH TSE:CSN TSE:CDV TSE:CMG TSE:CSU TSE:CRE TSE:CYY TSE:CRY TSE:CX : TSE:DSG TSE:DD TSE:DNK TSE:EFL TSE:EME TSE:ESL TSE:ECG TSE:EKD TSE:ET TSE:EXF TSE:FTG TSE:FUN TSE:GCM TSE:GND TSE:GLN TSE:GTK TSE:HP TSE:H TSE:HYG TSE:IDL TSE:IW TSE:IMP TSE:IDC TSE:ICS TSE:KTV TSE:LMZ TSE:LGI TSE:LUX TSE:MCZ TSE:MN TSE:MTK TSE:MAX TSE:MSF TSE:MDF TSE:MRG TSE:MT TSE:MTM TSE:MKX TSE:WWW TSE:MSD TSE:NII TSE:NT TSE:NDQ TSE:NUR TSE:OTC TSE:Q TSE:QAR TSE:P TSE:RND TSE:RC TSE:RIM TSE:RS TSE:RUT TSE:SVC TSE:SW : TSE:SRX TSE:SYX TSE:SXC TSE:TCS TSE:TZT TSE:TNT TSE:TC TSE:TUN TSE:VCM TSE:VRK TSE:VMY TSE:WPT TSE:WIN TSE:XTX TSE:XNS TSE:XPL TSE:ZL

One or two ETFs to track trends outside of Wall St hours...

FEZ FEU IXN IDV GSG EWA EWO EWK EWZ EWC EFA EEM EZU EWQ EWG EWI EWW EWN EZA EWP EWD EWL EWU EFG EFV IEV RXI KXI IXC IXG IXJ EXI MXI IXP JXI ILF ITF IOO DTH DWM DEW DFE DEB DBN DGG DPC DPN DOO DKA DRF DBR DDI DOL DIM DLS DBT DBU DNL DFJ DXJ DNH DND

One or two ETFs to track trends outside of Wall St hours...

FEZ FEU IXN IDV GSG EWA EWO EWK EWZ EWC EFA EEM EZU EWQ EWG EWI EWW EWN EZA EWP EWD EWL EWU EFG EFV IEV RXI KXI IXC IXG IXJ EXI MXI IXP JXI ILF ITF IOO DTH DWM DEW DFE DEB DBN DGG DPC DPN DOO DKA DRF DBR DDI DOL DIM DLS DBT DBU DNL DFJ DXJ DNH DND

Guess www.billcara.com can't handle the # of stocks either. lol.

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Here's some other ETFs.

XLB XLE XLU XLF XLV XLI XLP XLK MDY EFA IVV EWJ EEM IWM DVY EFV DBV PBW PGJ PEY PHO PWC PRF PID QQQQ QLD BMPSX SPY

TSX Interlisted securities. Are there any arbitrage opportunities due to the USD exchange with CAD, and how can a normal person identify and trade those?

TSE:SVN TSE:AEZ TSE:ABZ TSE:A TSE:AHX TSE:AVN.UN TSE:AEM TSE:AGU TSE:AL TSE:AMM TSE:ANP TSE:APG TSE:ASV TSE:ARZ TSE:AXP TSE:BCE TSE:BLD TSE:BMO TSE:BNS TSE:BAA TSE:ABX TSE:BTE.UN TSE:BEV TSE:BRA TSE:BVF TSE:BPO TSE:CAE TSE:CFT NYSE:HCH TSE:CCO TSE:CNQ TSE:CNE.UN TSE:COM TSE:CM TSE:CNR TSE:CP TSE:SNG TSE:CRJ TSE:CSN TSE:CMT TSE:CMC TSE:CRE TSE:CTQ TSE:BCB TSE:CRY TSE:KRY TSE:DSG TSE:DAX TSE:ELD TSE:ECA TSE:ENB TSE:ERF.UN TSE:ETG TSE:ECG TSE:FNX TSE:FMI TSE:FDG.UN TSE:FRG TSE:GAM TSE:YGA TSE:GNA TSE:GIL TSE:GGG TSE:G TSE:GSC TSE:HTE.UN TSE:HYG TSE:IMG TSE:IMX TSE:IMO TSE:IOL TSE:ITP TSE:IE TSE:IVN TSE:KBR TSE:KFS TSE:K TSE:LMZ TSE:DDS TSE:LOR TSE:MDS TSE:MCZ TSE:MFC TSE:MPH TSE:MNG TSE:MR TSE:MX TSE:MMM TSE:MFL TSE:MAE NYSE:MPV TSE:PDL TSE:NCX TSE:NCS TSE:NRM TSE:NSU TSE:NGD TSE:NXY TSE:NT : TSE:NGX TSE:NG TSE:ONC TSE:OTC TSE:OZN TSE:PMU TSE:PAA : TSE:PCA TSE:PPK TSE:POT TSE:PMD TSE:PD.UN TSE:PWI.UN TSE:PVE.UN TSE:QLT TSE:QC TSE:RIM TSE:RIC : TSE:RBA TSE:RY TSE:RMX TSE:SW TSE:SSO TSE:SLW TSE:STN TSE:SLF TSE:SOY TSE:SU TSE:TD TSE:TLC TSE:TLM TSE:TNX TSE:TKO TSE:TEO TSE:TOC TSE:TA TSE:TRP TSE:TGL TSE:TC TSE:VAS TSE:VIR AMEX:VGZ TSE:VTN TSE:WED TSE:WHT TSE:YM TSE:YRI TSE:ZL TSE:ZIC

The miners on TSX. Asbestos Corporation was on fire today...

Warning. This can easily grind your computer & Google Finance to a halt...

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Oil & Gas.

You can fairly easily make these portfolios yourself by downloading the lists from www.tsx.com

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Is the Canadian market one big income trust?

Warning... this will slow down Google Finance.

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Wavesmash! You're on fire! I found the foreign list extremely helpful. Thank you.

Denny,

Sold some SKF today at $88. Hopefully, I'll be able to reload those shares before the big one.

MikeNYC,

Nice to know that a fellow Cara follower is also a Tom Waits fan.

Good luck to all.

Has anyone read The Black Swan by the author of Fooled by Randomness?

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/

There really aren't that many banks in Canada...

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Yeah.. Canada's capital markets are small... there's no way I'm going to try adding all the US listed stocks... even if I had the time & Google could handle it.

Here's NYSE stocks starting with A if anyone wants to give it a go.

http://tinyurl.com/2kjhtz

The Nasdaq 100... or the red sea today.

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Wavesmash -

Is "Black Swan" worth reading, if you've read "Fooled by Randomness"?

I enjoyed "Fooled" but thought he got rather philosophical. I figured "Black Swan"- written during/after a sabbatical at University, would be moreso.

I need to make money now, get philosophical later!

BTW, Great to meet you at the Gold Show.

BH-I took today's gift as well. Think you are going to be right about the "dead bank bounce."

CDS traders warn of 'blood on streets'

http://biz.yahoo.com/ft/071101/fto110120072249061435.html?.v=1

Bill,

Just in case you missed this bit of news:

Fed Pumps $41B Into US Financial System
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071101/fed_markets.html

ALOHA !!

wavesmash ... "currency arbitrage between Canada and the USD"? Seems as if WGDFF shareholders in the USA would have noticed that! I certainly noticed when I did my last two Private Placements with USD buying Canadian juniors. What a deal a 12% - 16% currency discount! I have a few Aussie ones that are turning the corner as well ...

Anyone here realize that about the "F" stocks that trade on the OTCBB here in the USA? The "F" designates "foreign" and comes with a built-in currency converter when buying and selling. Go to the Canadian symbol WGI and read the bid and ask ... then go to the OTCBB symbol WGDFF and read the bid and ask! The bid and ask on the OTCBB should be some what higher than the bid and ask on the TSX symbol. Six months ago it was a 180 degree reverse. Thats because six months ago a USD was worth more than a Loonie! Just an FYI ...

RE: "Fed Pumps $41B Into US Financial System"
Can someone please explain to me what the Fed actually does with this money. Do they loan the money to the banks at 0% interest? Do they buy up debt? Do they purchase U.S. dollars being sold by foreign interests? Thanks.

A good way to check gold futures all the way out to Jun 2012:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/fc?s=GCX07.CMX

Very nice, tight contango in the gold futures.

Spot is here:

http://www.kitco.com/

I use the TD Waterhouse near futures price measured against the spot price in Kitco to determine the gold basis.

It's very annoying to me that I cannot find one site that will plot the basis, and/or any selection of contract month contract spreads, and then lay either plot over the daily cash price.

I can find one or two of these, but all three, which is naturally what I would want, is not easy to find. I have not fount it yet.

I would also like to plot the basis of any or all the metals together on one plot.

Someone posted a site called spreadfutures or something, I don't recall now. It is very nice in terms of plotting any month contract spreads, or different commodity spreads. But the spot price is nowhere to be found. I really need to see, historically, how the cash price and the basis have moved together and are trending now, relative to each other.

I may have to subscribe to a site find all that, and I suspect even then it may be difficult.

Fred:

The Fed Open Market Operations can be accessed below.

http://tinyurl.com/yn6u53

Pretty much self explanatory but come back with any questions; someone on the board can help.

Heads up on after market quotes from last night.

Somethings screwy -It appears that a number of "at the close" orders may have been reported using the prior days close.

NASD after hours reports on NEU & TYL for example. Also time reported on several as 5+ PM not shortly after 4.

britefutures.com is the site that someone mentioned the other day. very good at plotting spreads among contract months and different commodities. but lacking, as far as I can see, the ability to plot against, or over, the cash price.

More on Quotes:

Looks like possible erroneous(?) after market quotes have a reported time of 5:17PM.