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August 27, 2007

Cara’s Commentary & Community Chat, Mon., Aug. 27, 2007, 9:06 AM ET

As the broad market continues to recover, there will be a “wall of worry” set up to delay your participation until – naturally – the next time you should be selling. Then you will be pushed into buying at the wrong time.

A reader asked me to comment on a blog article he had read elsewhere that was “very disturbing”. Considering the source of that article (click on following link), I didn’t go much further. But in fairness to this community I think the subject matter, which is the “Terrorism Put”, ought to be discussed.

As to my own views, I do not have the daily trading history at hand to determine in my mind if this position is a $1 billion naked tactic with an inference the position was put on by terrorists prior to a planned mayhem event or whether it is a net position possibly put on by banks or hedge funds themselves in trouble or thinking other problems are soon to hit the marketplace.

These are extreme times even without the spectre of terrorism. As I have stated here many times in the past few months, all traders – whether long-term or short-term oriented – must watch the daily RSI/Stochastics of stocks/groups/sectors underlying their portfolios.

And, if ever you don’t feel comfortable that the stock prices of good quality companies are maintaining an upward bias, making you more nervous than you can tolerate, then sell the positions that are causing you angst.

Today, I will be checking out of my hotel and moving aboard a yacht where I have full communications. Hopefully, I will hear something positive regarding the residence/office I have expressed an interest in. I was told I would have a definitive answer last Friday morning, and two Friday’s before that.

This week, Ritz-Carlton is taking control of the hotel I was in the past two months, so I was going to have to move anyway. Believe me, terrorism is the last thing I have on my mind, but I do appreciate that many of you, particularly in London and New York, feel otherwise.

Posted by Posted by Bill Cara on August 27, 2007 09:06:22 AM | Category: Cara's Daily Commentary

Discourse

Bill,
I have posted an indicator on my site that's nearly 100% sensitive to short-term tops. It is pointing to one today.

Posted by: Will Rahal [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:09 AM [link]

I'm one of the guys that has been screaming about the crazy option activity.

Its not just in the US either - there have been some INSANE options written in the European markets too, all for September.

There is no odd activity in the out months - only in the front month.

The 10,000 contract lots traded on the SPY were all coded as spreads; one of the users on my forum called the OCC and verified them - they're not a bad print - they're real. This leads one to believe that they are not covered calls (e.g. a "pin" of the SPY price without actually selling $1.7 billion worth of it into the market, massively disrupting the price) but rather a play on a crash. While they were sold net-net at par (in other words, at a straight $5/contract differential) this leaves two possibilities open, both bad:

1. A bear call spread. A "someone knows something" play - but a play that can't pay off unless the market tanks by 30% - within the next couple of weeks!

2. Someone is in BIG trouble and is using the option MMs to effectively write themselves a huge short-term loan. Clearing costs make this unattractive - unless its the only money you can get, and whoever is doing it has a wink-wink-nod-nod on ignoring margin requirements!

Neither is good; the latter portends the potential collapse of a major market participant in the options space. "Saved by our own failure"? That'd be interesting.

The SPX 700 contract is even more troubling, as I can't find an offsetting position that makes this look sane. Never mind the odd trades in the European space.

Of course there are no guarantees. Someone bought a buttload of PUTs on CFC for July expiration a few weeks ago. July expiration came and went, the PUTs went out worthless..... THEN CFC imploded.

Their bet was a zero, but they weren't "wrong" per-se - only early by - literally - a few days.

I don't know what all this odd trading means, but when I see stuff like this my ears perk up. The most benign explanation is "pinning" the current price, which is bearish in and of itself - someone wanting today's price really bad because they're quite sure tomorrow's will be worse.

All of the other explanations go from bearish to frightening in a big hurry.

Be careful.

Posted by: Genesis [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:26 AM [link]

Bill,

I just saw on CNBC that the Stelco saga has completed its course. Today it was bought by US Steel for $1.1 billion. I'm not shocked but I am surprised just how accurate your predictions for this ended up.

Thanks,
Brian

Posted by: began329 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:35 AM [link]

Genesis,

With that action, and Bill's short term bullish, but longer term bearish. Why not buy up a few Jan. SPX puts? maybe something near the money either way, just to see what happens in the coming months?

Posted by: Quentusrex [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:36 AM [link]

There seems to be an Oct SPX 1250 put .SZPVJ for $680'ish.

Posted by: Quentusrex [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:40 AM [link]

cyderman,

Re: Check the title of Bill's blog
"Capital Markets and Social Equity - perspective and discussion"

I happen to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I too agree that the perpetrators of the credit market bubble ought to now pay the freight. On the other hand, there are times when capital markets cease to function as a fair pricing mechanism and the ultimate loser is the general public -- our jobs, our portfolios, our pensions, perhaps our homes, and so forth. This latest credit market collapse is a global issue and the G-20 monetary authorities -- the central bankers and the Finance Ministers -- stepped up to avert a capital market break-down. For that, We The People ought to be thankful. Now we must let our views be known to legislators that the deep-rooted problems in the financial system must be fixed, and that the bankers and corporations that caused the problem, and who are responsible for operating a free market ought to be the parties that pay for it.

I am particularly irked that one man, Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide Financial, can be neck-deep in these financial system failures and still "earn" a $50 million annual compensation package. There must be a thousand other qualified executive managers in America who'd take the job for ten percent of that. What I am driving at is that Angelo Mozilo controls management and is using that personal power to control the interests of the shareholders. That is 180 degrees backwards to the way capital and financial markets are supposed to work.

Mozilo is merely the point of a rather large sword. The NYSE's ex-CEO Richard Grasso, Home Depot's ex-CEO Robert Nardelli, and too many others to mention, have managed to grab control of stakeholder-owned organizations and corporations for annual personal compensation of $50-200 million, plus perks that are beyond belief of the average person. Who pays? The average person pays. And that is wrong.

I saw all this coming 25 years ago when Humungous Bank starting taking control of Humungous Broker. Big hitter brokers were compensated on results, and the best of them earned multi-millions annually, and they earned it. Then the "floaters" from the bank head office would drop by with their fancy suits and cigars and relatively low (but deservedly low) pay. It didn't take those parasites long before they changed the compensation packages upside down to a point where the big-hitter brokers departed and set up small boutiques, and the "floaters" took full control of HB&B.

I'll say this about Grasso. There is no way commissioned brokers and independent proprietary traders would have approved a $100 or $200 hundred a year compensation package for the CEO. He managed to do it covertly in a boardroom controlled by him and a few friends from the corporate and Humungous Bank world. They figured he should be getting his, too. The same gang believes that Mozilo and Nardelli and the rest should continue to get theirs too.

For capital markets to function, the owners and their managers of capital wealth must be put in control of the system.

The financial services system, which is based on credit, must be separated from the capital market system. The conflicts of interest must be eliminated.

Posted by: Bill Cara [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 9:49 AM [link]

Yen spot:

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/history.gif?s=CME_JY.Y$$&t=l&w=15&a=50&v=d12

Funny thing I find about the markets is that you can be totally right until you're proven totally wrong. Add money to that, and somebody might be taken to thinking they have some measure of control in the machinations.

If someone is convinced that terror will befall us in September, they had better be advised they are somewhat early on the scene and should wait a year. But then again, it would be equally terroristic to bomb Iranian facilities.

Posted by: FranSix [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:07 AM [link]

Goodmorning all,

I gather from the week in Review that Bill thinks that Technology will lead this week. Did anyone else gleaned this idea??? Please clarify for me in case I misread.

Thank you,

Posted by: moneygenie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:08 AM [link]

If this dip is a ST buying opp, certainly is taxing on the emotions....I would definitely be in the camp waiting for more strength prior to buying only to be doing so when it's time to sell. Delay a plan and it becomes the wrong plan.

Speaking of conviction...leaders stay leaders until proven otherwise. FXI fits that one....but who had the brass ones to buy on the last (few) dips. Buy high to go higher fits this one almost beyond belief.

Emotions, plans, actionable routine....Bill integrates them all. I guess that's why he's the pro.

fwiw...gold sector has a lot of negative buzz from the TA types, judging from a free introductory chart service that just dropped into my mailbox....the recent lows on the miners are being taken as broken support...however, I prefer to interpret as an extreme overshoot due to selling by hedge funds

Posted by: jasper [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:15 AM [link]

Stelco was a tragedy. http://reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN2741853420070827

Private equity used a court system to steal over $1 billion from the rightful owners, ie, the shareholders, as well as damaging the debt holders, suppliers, and employees and their families. Private equity and their bankers inserted new security agreements on their financing that effectively reduced the value of the Stelco enterprise by maybe another $billion. They re-organized the carcass of a viable enterprise they slaughtered so they could remove valuable pieces in the interim. The sad fact is that the Ontario Securities Commission and the Toronto Stock Exchange participated in a fraud by ignoring the pleas of the shareholders. And the bought-and-paid-for politicians looked the other way.

The good thing that came out of Stelco is that the average person can now see how a group of co-conspirators could take control of a leading corporation in Canada, by parachuting in a couple senior executives, a company that was in full compliance of all banking and creditor agreements at the time, and was making more profit than at any time in its storied existence, and simply tell a story to a bankruptcy court that the new managers felt the industry, although strong at the time, would weaken in the months or years ahead, causing problems to the enterprise, such that the judge needed to declare them bankrupt.

So forget the fact Stelco was not even insolvent, private equity got a judge to declare them bankrupt. Then before any Plan of Arrangement was agreed to by the remaining stakeholders, following the theft of the shareholders' rightful interest, the judge called an end to the hearings by stating he was retiring, and that it was his law that neither he, nor any of the participants could be sued over the matter.

Not surprisingly, since we cynics all expected it, the judge never retired. About two months later he joined the principal law firm responsible for the bankruptcy proceedings.

That's how things are done in Canada. I have zero confidence in any system that facilitates fraud of the kind that happened at Stelco. You'd like to think something good would come out of the Stelco tragedy, but frankly I am not holding my breath waiting.

Posted by: Bill Cara [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:16 AM [link]

moneygenie,

Yes, I took notice and thought ahead one week when Bill will quote his guidance to remind some that his mental computer ain't too bad.

Last night I created a buy list with this remark in mind.
pbe/bio tech
igm/tech
igw/semi

I'm trying to stay away from stocks but could get tempted. MU is the most obvious value? Fairly good range from low to high ytd returns on tech of the cara 100. Anyone have preferences?

Posted by: jasper [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:24 AM [link]

Hello again,

Anyone watching MCO ?? What to do ?? Watch and wait or jump the gun ?? Looking for a clue and some moral support ..

Thanks I A

Posted by: moneygenie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:29 AM [link]

I have been watching MCO for awhile but have not yet gone long because of my concern they have not rated the subprime market correctly and I dont know why.
Cheers
Bob

Posted by: bob [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:42 AM [link]

Re Moody's (MC) -- On a technical indicator basis, the present price goes back to 1Q05, and the price decline from 76 to 46 this year is a Bear market in itself. The RSI for the weekly and monthly data is very deep into the Accumulation Zone, but there is no BUY Alert yet from the Daily RSI-7.

There needs to be a shift in trader sentiment before I would step back in. The EU is investigating these ratings agencies to see if there was a possible tie-in to the mortgage industry problems. Those kinds of discussions could go on for some time, and there could be down spiking days in the months ahead that would enable purchases by long-or-short term oriented traders at better prices. In addition, there may be possible lawsuits in the offing where financial institutions rated by Moody's and other such agencies have rated them sound and they subsequently failed.

So, I'd say to sit this one out unless you have a 5 year time horizon and deep enough pockets to buy more on the dips if they happen to occur.

Posted by: Bill Cara [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:48 AM [link]

Re: MCO
Its broken a 13 day downtrend today, and as Bill says, found support from 2005 around 43.70, but there's another downtrend currently around $56. Could be worth buying $50 calls for a quick pop, but fundamentals seem murky at best.

Posted by: cyderman [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:03 AM [link]

Yeah, the big problem I see with MCO is that Congress is breathing down ALL of these guys' necks right now.

Regardless of whether there is real culpability there or not, they are likely to get hammered in the short-to-intermediate term.

I'm short MCO right now but with a very tight leash on it; I will reverse that position once there's clarity on how this plays out, but for now, I think the trade to make is on the short side unless your time horizon is VERY long (3+ years)

Nothing in the housing, lending and construction space is safe right now on the long side. And, by the way, historically commercial R/E follows residential by 18 months or so - which means trying to hide there is potentially REALLY dangerous.

Posted by: Genesis [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:08 AM [link]

Re: MCO
I would not go near this stock. Although I pay attention to technicals, my investment decisions must first pass on fundamental considerations. On a fundamental basis my gut tells me that MCO will be in the same boat as the defendants in the asbestos lawsuits of years ago; discharge in bankruptcy. The defrauded plaintiffs will receive class action status and they will obtain judgments that will exceed MCO' net worth. Not only would I not purchase here in the low 40s, I also do not believe that the bearish P&F target of $34 will hold.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?chart=mco,PLTADANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!!!2!20]&pref=G

Posted by: lessmore [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:22 AM [link]

One of the micro-caps I've been holding, China Precision Steel (CPSL), is having a good day. Up sharply on high volume. But be careful, this is a volatile stock. Small float and high short interest.

I own it as a long-term speculative play on the surging industrial growth in mainland China. And I believe the short interest is a response to an S-3 filed by the company in June. I'm looking forward to the secondary offereing -- provided it gets priced right -- as it will allow the company to raise necessary capital while increasing the float.

Posted by: number2son [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:25 AM [link]

I think I will have to skip the Daily Report today. I have terrific ISP connections now, but other items on my agenda. Sorry.

Posted by: Bill Cara [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:44 AM [link]

Bill --

I must say your thoughtful response to cyderman was SOOTHING. Describing the trauma SO artfully really does help, bigtime.

I think you have been ahead of your time. Now, after the decline of employer health plans, pensions, and finally the debt crisis, more people will understand why you link the themes "capital markets and social equity".

In countries ever more committed to "market solutions", what more important social issue is there?

This perspective can also help us understand phenomena like Chavez, Correa, Morales, Kirchner -- and troubles I anticipate in Brazil and Mexico.

Privatizations pushed by Washington in the '90s had a perverse social impact. The world's richest man, Carlos Slim - whom I got to know during privatization of TELMEX - has wealth equalling 7% of Mexico's GDP. America's richest ever - John D. Rockefeller - never surpassed 1.5% of US GDP.

(these % from an op-ed in today's NY Times)

Posted by: Jock [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 12:05 PM [link]

THANKS MUCH TO ALL FOR SPEEDY AND INSIGHTFUL RESPONSE.
I have gained clarity !!!!

Dear Mr. Cara,

Thank you for this most precious gift in the form of a Blog. what a concept!

Thank you all.

Posted by: moneygenie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 12:21 PM [link]

Lessmore -

Do you feel more positive about silver? 88% of demand is for fabrication in industrial, photographic, jewelry and silverware.

http://www.silverinstitute.org/supply/index.php

PLUS, governments don't hold significant amounts of it!

Yet, still there's the monetary aspect to this metal!

Posted by: Jock [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:13 PM [link]

Good afternoon Jock:
I agree with you about silver.

Posted by: lessmore [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:21 PM [link]

MU - Anybody else notice today's nice little +2% move?

Posted by: OldGoat [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:21 PM [link]

mu,
yes, wish I had acted on temptation this morning

adbe is the other one that has my interest. any thoughts?

Posted by: jasper [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:30 PM [link]

I am confused about the movement in gold stocks over the past month. It seems that gold has held up well and the S&P 500 has come back well. Why haven't the gold stocks come back? I read that they were sold to raise funds in the recent market sell off, but that doesn't make sense as any stock could have been sold to raise funds.

It seems that the factors that have historically propelled gold and gold stocks higher are here in spades - weak dollar, inflation rising, de-hedging, risky international situation, etc. Why wouldn't gold stocks recover along with gold. Is there a new paradigm?

Does anyone have a theory?

Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:45 PM [link]

ADBE - Jesse L. would want to see resistance broken (maybe 41.25?) before entering.

UNG - Nice bounce off 33.85 low this morning. Someone said a few days ago they'd be adding below 34. Hope he/she did. Now 34.69.

Posted by: OldGoat [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 1:53 PM [link]

UNG: Bought Sep 32 calls this morning.

Posted by: JogyP [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 2:23 PM [link]

km

Be advised that gold/mining shares have a nasty habit of correcting along with the markets before establishing a recovery, sometimes up to 60% of the previous rise.

The gold/silver ratio has been indicating the correct proportion for a recovery of gold prices, gold down$1, silver down 20¢. (which changed by afternoon.)

Also a narrowing of the gold basis, the near futures price minus the spot price ~$9. This should improve as well before things get going.

So I looked at the momentum indicator on the XAU/GOLD chart and sure enough the weekly chart is showing a change in momentum back over the -100. RSI has also turned up. The daily has the same in great magnification:

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$XAU:$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p72171742545

Posted by: FranSix [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 2:27 PM [link]

ALOHA !!

km ... I believe gold stocks are waiting for a POF confirmation above $700USD. Seems to be the magical line-in-the-sand for the US FED. With the defense of the US Dollar by the BIG players this may not come all that soon.

Meanwhile back in Switzerland ... The leader of the Swiss Central Bank seems to be tired of the constant manipulation of volatility. I have to agree that there has been a false sense of security for way too long in the markets that has led to a misallocation or riskier debt issues not only by the minions but HB&B as well! Only problems for the minions is we do not have the political clout to get a "get-out-of-bankruptcy-free-card"!!


READ ON:
SNB head Roth says market volatility should stay

Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:38am ET

ZURICH, Aug 19 (Reuters) - Central banks should not seek to eliminate market volatility otherwise markets risk becoming a one-way street leading to excess, Swiss central bank president Jean-Pierre Roth said in a newspaper interview on Sunday.

"We hope that volatility stays higher. What we had was not normal, namely, practicaly no volatility," Roth told the Neue Zuercher Zeitung in an interview.

"Markets cannot be a one-way street, or you will get excess," he told the newspaper. "The aim of central banks should not be to eliminate volatility again."

Posted by: kaimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 2:32 PM [link]

FranSix - All sectors were hit hard this month. My point was that most have recovered much more than gold stocks. I fully expect that gold stocks will move significantly higher in the next year or so. Just find it curious that they corrected with stocks but didn't recover with them.

Kaimu - I enjoy your thoughtful commentaries on this blog. Agree the powers want to keep gold under $700 for as long as possible. It will take alot of momentum to get over that hump, but I think it will come by the election. Perhaps renewed inflation from the huge amount of money created this month by the central banks will provide the catalyst.

Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 3:21 PM [link]

Dear Bill,
RE:
"So forget the fact Stelco was not even insolvent, private equity got a judge to declare them bankrupt. Then before any Plan of Arrangement was agreed to by the remaining stakeholders, following the theft of the shareholders' rightful interest, the judge called an end to the hearings by stating he was retiring, and that it was his law that neither he, nor any of the participants could be sued over the matter.

Not surprisingly, since we cynics all expected it, the judge never retired. About two months later he joined the principal law firm responsible for the bankruptcy proceedings.

That's how things are done in Canada."

In the USA, judges decide,
"who be the PRESIDENT!"

The idea of "we the people" is now mythology of a once forgotten land.

Posted by: moneygenie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 3:36 PM [link]

Anyone have any insights into what moved the UTES (Dow Utilities) today? Big 3% move down on an otherwise non-noteworthy day.

Posted by: glenn-mp [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 4:54 PM [link]

glenn-mp
I am perhaps the least qualified here to answer your question, but it may be due to the expectation of higher interest rates to compensate for perceived risk in the debt markets.
Per Bill: Utes hate rising interest rates.
The real question it seems to me is if the Fed cuts in September, will this effect long rates?
If so then utes may rally, but if that cut is seen as fear on the part of the powers to be, long rates may well go higher.
I am not sure I have this right.
But Leisa seems to have handle on this so you might querry her.
Anyone smarter, here, please chime in.

Posted by: Rigdon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 6:36 PM [link]

ALOHA !!

Chavez is in trouble ... So get ready for some sort of military "solution" that of course won't work! Military solutions never solve economic problems. Eventually Venezuela will be Zimbabwe at this rate and that brings "country risk" into a major ALERT! For anyone who has been following the Zimbabwe mess gold producers are shut down because of government mandated "manufacturing price freezes" that make it impossible to mine gold for a profit. Gold producers in Zimbabwe must also sell their gold production to the government at a price a lot lower than spot which in turn also has payments delayed.

This classic hyperinflation Weimar stuff where people offload currency as fast as they get it and buy anything of perceived value, even a bottle of booze or a Fiat car.

READ ON:
We have a real-time confirmation that Venezuela inflation is running at 25%.

Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118817255017309334.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

At a crowded Fiat dealership in Caracas's posh Las Mercedes neighborhood, would-be buyers add their names to three-month waiting lists. They are so eager to purchase they don't care what model or color they get, as long as they get it soon, says sales manager Beatríz Machado. Some used Fiats sell for more than new ones because they are available on the spot, she says.

"They don't want a car. They want a place to put their money," says Ms. Machado, who wears a red blouse and earrings to show her support for Mr. Chávez, whom she credits with helping the poor. She, too, has doubts about the economy, and says she spends her bolívars quickly. Using a bolívar loan, she bought an apartment and a car. Recently, she says, she loaded up on imported champagne and whiskey.

Posted by: kaimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 6:54 PM [link]

glenn mp-

If you comb the list of % movers today, you will see they were selling some builders and developers and mortgage companies down 5 and 6% today. Is the rate cut/ all is well meme in doubt?

On another matter, and proving that it's the well-intentioned acts that are punished the harshest, I enter a period of blackout as the market model I developed is considered by a group for use. So no market comments and no calls unfortunately.

Thanks to all who listened and put up with me.

Posted by: MarkM [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 7:07 PM [link]

Good on ya, MarkM, your calls have been nuanced and mostly right.
I am sure we shall all miss your input. Hope you will return some day with your much larger portfolio, no pressure, and a wish to share, much like Bill.
What could be better? So please negotiate hard for a brief non-compete.
Good luck and thanks for all you have contributed.

Posted by: Rigdon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 7:22 PM [link]

MarkM

Always enjoyed your comments. Good luck and hope to hear from you soon

Posted by: tony [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 7:38 PM [link]

MarkM,

We're so glad that you have been posting on Bill's blog.

After this necessary departure, we all will welcome you back with (dare I say?) a certain...exuberance?

We'll all be waiting.

Posted by: GemmaStar [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 8:28 PM [link]

Kaimu,
I find it very difficult to get any accurate information about Venezuela, since there seems to be media bias on both sides.

For instance see article, "Inflation Drops Significantly in July in Venezuela."
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=2371

Without a good understanding of the politics or economy in Venezuela it becomes a very difficult place to invest. Having said this I have a small position in KRY. GLTA, JMHO

Posted by: indptrader [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 8:53 PM [link]

Re miner weakness;

I can buy gold etfs, why risk buying a mining company stock that MAY have exposure in things like Coventree (see ABX, IVN) where they can't get their money back? That is a major reason for miner weakness during this time of credit derivative issues.

Posted by: g034 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:02 PM [link]

Good luck Mark and take good care of the girls. Loo forward to hearing about your future success.

Posted by: Seamus [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 10:19 PM [link]

Mr. Cara, found your site by accident when searching for some info. Very informative, thank you very much for this site.

DL

Posted by: DLF [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2007 11:57 PM [link]

Here is an interesting story:

"The Globe and Mail reports in its Monday edition that RBC Dominion chartists expect gold to regain its normal seasonal strength, which arrives in early August and runs into October, unless it breaks decisively below its 200-day moving average of $657.30 an ounce. The Globe's Leonard Zehr writes that RBC analyst Ray Hanson argues that if gold were to break its 200-day moving average, "a new round of general liquidation and leverage unwinding would likely be under way." Bullion climbed $9.10 an ounce to $677.50 Friday, and Mr. Hanson called for a "new intermediate momentum upturn" to be registered on a close above $648.42 Friday. The charts he likes best are Barrick Gold among large-cap stocks; Agnico-Eagle Mines and Kinross Gold among mid-caps; and European Goldfields and Anatolia Mineral Development among small caps."

Ray Hanson took over the reins from Ian Notley after I hired Ian and rebuilt the Trend & Cycle Dept for Canaccord Capital. Notley is arguably the finesr market technician in the world. I am biased because Ian was my mentor, so I don't think there is much argument there at all.

I do have great respect for my alma mater RBC Dominion though, and for Ray Hanson. I feel good that he is so positive at this point re gold.

The small cap Anatolia Mineral Development is one I don't know a thing about, but I know if Ray likes it, the whole RBC Dominion system is going to hear of it, and with the Globe & Mail, I guess hundreds of thousands more. So maybe we should look into it?

Posted by: Bill Cara [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 12:18 AM [link]

Re Anatolia:

Here's a year old research report from Raymond James:
http://tinyurl.com/2xhae3

I'm a little concerned about operations in Turkey as a result of the suspension of operations at Eldorado's Kisladag mine there.
The Rio Tinto connection seems like a big positive.

Posted by: cyderman [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 12:56 AM [link]

ALOHA !!

indptrader ... I'm not sure who to beleieve the Venezuelan Central Bank run by Chavez or the WSJ reporter? Although in the article it did say official inflation dropped to 17% from 19%! I mean I don't even believe my own government's CPI numbers! In actuality I have always believed the SWI(Sea World Index)currently at 11%, last price increase for a ticket to Sea World San Diego!

Posted by: kaimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 1:01 AM [link]

ALOHA !!

Your friends place at Long Bay seems a little underpriced to me, unless it is priced in British pounds! I am sure the oceanfront residential property is much more pricey ... Just curious what are the annual costs of utilities, maintenance and property tax ... ballpark?

Posted by: kaimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 1:08 AM [link]

Kaimu, with all due respect, the strident anti-Chavez bias of the WSJ is unmistakable.

Even so, deep into the article you will find this:

"But the longer-term prognosis is far from clear. Mark Weisbrot, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a Washington think tank, who is generally supportive of Mr. Chávez, says the government has time to boost economic growth by investing in industries outside the oil sector. Other economists are more skeptical. They contend that the government isn't making enough long-term investments, such as building factories, and that it remains far too dependent on oil revenue."

(I don't think you'll find many KRY investors who disagree with that sentiment. Hey, Sr. Chavez, maybe opening up the Las Cristinas project might help expand economic development beyond oil. You think?)

Of course, the WSJ author cites an economist who has his doubts about VZ, none other than the senior Latin American economist at ... try to guess now ... Goldman Sachs.

Finally, reading the full story I couldn't help but be struck by the irony of the author's claims Venezuelans are trying to move their money into dollars. Isn't high inflation and the unprecedented debt of the U.S. government one of the primary drivers of the rise in price of precious metals?

Oh, if only Chavez could sell treasuries to the Chinese to keep his own currency from collapsing!

Anyway, country risk high for KRY. But it is also absolutely magnified by the U.S. press. And with this risk, there is also the prospect of a large reward. These are common attributes of speculative investments, and the key is to balance your investment (depreciating) $'s accordingly.

Posted by: number2son [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 1:09 AM [link]

ALOHA !!

For those who still believe the US government can do no wrong or that somehow our leaders spend days and weeks and months in debate and consult with "experts" then please take note of this phone recording of LBJ talking about Vietnam in 1964 ...

LBJ: "What in the hell am I ordering them out there for?"

LBJ: "It's damned easy to get in a war, but it's going to be awfully hard to ever extricate yourself if you get in."

Yet, right after this phone call he ordered up troop strength and some 58,000 US soldiers died.

Did anyone ever see the movie Gallipoli?

None of this is new yet the same mistakes are repeated time and again, whether it is a Presidents decision for war, the military leaders vanity or stock market greed. It always ends the same way too ...

Please view YouTube presentation ...

Link: http://tinyurl.com/327b4r

number2son ... The Venezuelan Bolivar or the US Peso ... whats the difference? In terms of Chavez he surely loves himself like a good dictator should, but if he makes the mistake of just sitting on oil revenues and surviving politically on handouts to the poor without creating a working middle class with actual jobs then let Zimbabwe begin!!! I see his direction and it is making aliances with the likes of the Russians, the Chinese and Castro ... in other words BIG SOCIALISM! Anyway if he cuts off oil to the USA then get ready for the return of GUN BOAT DIPLOMACY! I am not sure the Russians and the Chinese would want to engage in warfare in the Americas not even to save Chavez! Russia surely does need the oil and China can get oil with less resistance from Africa! My one BIG memory of living in Venezuela all those years in the 1960s as a kid was the military presence. Militaristic countries always have high inflation ...

Posted by: kaimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2007 2:08 AM [link]

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