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February 20, 2007
Cara’s Daytrader Bull Board, Tues., Feb. 20, 2007, 7:20 AM
When the big news of the day is a proposed marriage between Oprah (XMSR) and Howard (SIRI), where the aggregate of this satellite radio combo is still a loser saddled with $2.3 billion debt, you have to know it’s a slow start to the week.
Market demand for satellite radio has never lived up to the promoters’ hopes because the free alternative is satisfactory. Will there be regulatory approval? I’d like to see it, but who really cares if there is going to be one player in this industry? There are many alternatives.
The DaimlerChrysler split up was looking more inevitable over time. What had been calculated as a $35 billion acquisition in Chrysler is probably now worth maybe $10 billion (with stress on the word “maybe”).
The over-hyped satellite radio and Daimler-Chrysler deals are lessons in why I avoid trading in the shares of less than successful companies. I don’t need the drama in my life. While it ought to be emotionally fulfilling, trading securities is not something one does for entertainment.
Wal-Mart (WMT) Quarterly results are out, but nothing impressive. Analysts had been looking for 90 cents and the result was 93 cents. Sales were also ahead of expectations. But isn’t this a case of too low expectations of the Street? Of concern is the guidance for the company’s annual results.
What I do like is Wal-Mart’s deal in India to provide supply-chain management and technology to a prospective partner. I like that approach to international expansion.
It's a big week for corporate earnings. Watch for disappointments like Home Depot (HD).
Below, I have reproduced the latest report by Colin Twiggs, which was issued just as I was departing for the airport.
Interactive links
A slow week ahead for economic data, but Wednesday’s US Consumer Price Inflation report is always a popular one for the Talking Head crowd.
The Weekly International Econ Report by Econoday for last week is comprehensive.
Following a strong opening gap on Monday, India’s Bombay Sensex 30 dropped most of that day. Then Tuesday, after another strong open, the BSE 30 dropped all day, closing down -149.52 pts (-1.04 pct).
Shares across Europe were soft at mid-day Tuesday as the JP Morgan strategists opined: “We see an improvement in the growth-inflation trade-off dominating the risks to European equities from stretched valuations, euro strength, and normalisation in profit margins, from currently elevated levels."
Trading early this week has been “listless” in the $USD, averaging 84.05. After midnight Tuesday there was a modest strengthening to 84.17 at 6:00am ET.
U.S. Treasury Bond Mar. contract
The March US T-Bond had a huge pop a week ago Wednesday as TH’s were falling all over themselves over Bernanke testimony.
March Crude Light dipped well below 57 yesterday, but this morning is back to 58.
Spot gold is down -$5 from midnight to 6:45am ET Tuesday.
Spot silver has dropped about -13 cents since midnight to 6:45am ET Tuesday.
Spot platinum is down about -$9 since midnight to 6:45am ET Tuesday.
Spot palladium is trading down -$3 since midnight to 6:45am ET Tuesday.
Weakness in $CRB on Wed and Thurs held at support at 301.
US Treasury Market


This is expected to be a slow week in markets as it is a popular holiday week and college reading week in North America. I too am headed south for a couple days.
Enjoy your week. I expect to return here on Friday morning, although it’s possible I could check in earlier.
Posted by Posted by Bill Cara on February 20, 2007 07:20:50 AM | Category: Cara's Bull Board
Discourse
SLW reports record earnings.
http://www.24hgold.com/24hpmdata/articles/20070220119388.html
Posted by: Seamus
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February 20, 2007 9:14 AM [link]
Re: Last post
If a pop-up appears on the SLW article, hit cancel and ignore. The article should appear.
Posted by: Seamus
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February 20, 2007 9:18 AM [link]
Any thoughts on this morning's meltdown of Jetblue? Everyone I've talked to is still flying with them and they've tackled problems openly and aggressively in the press.
Posted by: Sailor Jake
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February 20, 2007 10:03 AM [link]
Bill(or anyone for debate),,,,
MU monthly rsi is approaching 30 on the RSI 7. The RSI 7 for the daily and weekly are both under 30.
In addition to these technical indicators, what else are you looking for as a catalyst to start to leg in.
tkx,
Dab
Posted by: dabonenose
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February 20, 2007 10:55 AM [link]
WOW, gold getting schellacked this morning. Looks like it wants to test 650 quickly,,,lol
Posted by: dabonenose
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February 20, 2007 10:59 AM [link]
Woosh! Yep, quite a takedown in PMs. I nibbled on some GRS and will add to AUY in the next couple days. Looks like GSS will issue more stock. SLW is one of the few stocks howing greens, even if it's only by a few pennies.
Posted by: mogwai8myball
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February 20, 2007 11:15 AM [link]
GLD - broke uptrend line today in an overbought condition. If you were not paying attention, now may be a good time to look.
Posted by: g034
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February 20, 2007 3:31 PM [link]
dabonenose,
Why are you lol?
Are with the majority of investors/traders who missed out on the gold move the last few years.
Or, are you with the minority of traders who have been aboard this gold bull and have been dramatically beating the stock market over the last few years?
Keep watching MU, the less optimism in the commodity markets the better, LOL.
Posted by: g034
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February 20, 2007 3:36 PM [link]
G034, how do you see the "overbought" condition? What do you look at that tells you that?
Indeed, there was a tremendous opportunity on Goldcorp this AM. A few other miners referenced here are also at what seem very attractive levels.
Posted by: SiO2
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February 20, 2007 3:44 PM [link]
G034,,,,lol is tagged at the end of alot of my comments. It has no meaning other then I laugh alot out loud.
Not meant to be sarcastic in any way if that's how you took it.
tkx,
Dab
Posted by: dabonenose
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February 20, 2007 3:53 PM [link]
dab, I wondered if you had hit the "hookah" one too many times today, lol...I'm sorry for using you to make a point.
Si02 - just using Bill's RSI 7 over 70. I think it's best to stay on the same page as Bill regarding price oscillators.
Posted by: g034
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February 20, 2007 3:59 PM [link]
Re GOLD being overbought: From the point of view of someone who has been on vacation for a couple of weeks (and not been looking), I'm going with overbought getting more overbought-I think that would be the contrarian play. So I think it's a buying opportunity.
Posted by: 2nd_ave
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February 20, 2007 4:13 PM [link]
Hello Bill,
I hope the time off is going well or went well if you are back. The other day there were several comments on TA regarding WGDF. Do you concur that a drop under 1.90 is "bad" or what do you say about the price and stock action?
thanks,
tom
Posted by: golden7
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February 20, 2007 5:28 PM [link]
Still don't see why Bill highlighted the WARNING and not the Bull market confirmed bit by CT as was the headline in his diary this weekend. Clearly, the bull are fine and todays Twiggs note warns of a 'further upsurge'. I like that extended or not as a long. Also CT wanted a break of 2500 on Nasadaq, well we got that today and hopefully it will hold. The Transports over 5000 and holding and all the Dow theory speak of a confirmed bull market. Why the seemingly negative spin in trying to find something wrong with equities as if hedging Stern vs Oprah is the basis for the market to start the day. Just a feeling I get visiting here, momentarily it puts a damper on things till I look again my long equities account.:)
Posted by: longhorn
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February 20, 2007 6:02 PM [link]
I'd pay REAL CLOSE attention to what g034 is saying here. For the 24 months he and I have been bantering back and forth on these pages his trading "system" for Goldie and her Miners has been damn near perfect.
Posted by: MarkM
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February 20, 2007 6:10 PM [link]
longhorn, I published the entire Twiggs report. I reported that Twiggs said the Transports confirmed the Bull. I also stated that Twiggs said the Bull cycle is too advanced to chase here. My readers can read. Apparently you can't.
Early in February I published a headline article that informed my readers I thought the stock market was ready for a "melt-up". My readers read that too.
So what is your problem?
Nobody is asking you to come here, and, trust me, nobody wants to hear the snide remarks of a guest. If you want to continue to post, please identify yourself to us as a real person, and try to add something of value.
Thank you.
Posted by: Bill Cara
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February 20, 2007 7:36 PM [link]
'Woodshed's' words have strong foundation here and find g034 is GOLD's mouthpiece especially when Bill is out of pocket.
Long GLD, GG, MU (if MU gaps down below $12.00 at the opening tomorrow morning, I'm adding to my stash ;)
Posted by: C.Note
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February 20, 2007 7:48 PM [link]
Bill
I tried to post something tonight, signed in as usual, struggled with concept, spelling and composition, worried if the whole idea was stupid, and then zapped "post", only to be told that I didn't sign in.
Very frustrated, I did it again (this time with even better articulation... practice makes perfect)..."post" same result.
No need to feel threatened, Bill, give me my voice...
Joking of course, but wanted you to know...
Rig
Posted by: Rigdon
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February 20, 2007 7:54 PM [link]
Bill, I was composing when you posted above after MarkM. You are always with us :)
Another Cara SignPosts is occuring:
4-week T-Bill closing tomorrow for 3/22 due date is estimated @5.24% will advise of the actual investment rate when sale is over.
Posted by: C.Note
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February 20, 2007 8:06 PM [link]
The sign-in system doesn't seem to be working properly. I too created a couple paragraphs and the system rejected it.
I was saying something about having 4 Kalik's and maybe calling it a night w/ posting -- before I have 8.
I mentioned WMT and a whole lot about Western Goldfields. Re the latter, I was just commenting that I don't yet have the full scoop on this story, but I'm riding the jockey. And the horse seems like it's being groomed for the Preakness and not a quarter horse sprint.
But that's enough from a hotel lobby. I have another Kalik being set down.
Posted by: Bill Cara
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February 20, 2007 8:22 PM [link]
If anyone wants to fence with Bill and his caution about being long here perhaps they can step out of the daytrading turret, take off the rose-colored glasses and put on their readers for this:
That's GMO's 7 Year Asset Class Forecast for January 2007. Not what a long term investor wants to see is it? Most of the asset classes are minimal to NEGATIVE.
Now, Grantham can be a bit bearish at times but as far as risk-adjusted returns go the man and his firm kick some serious a$$. Oh, and he had his clients defensively positioned prior to 2000 and made nice returns throughout The Bear. He understands that it is not how much you make during bull markets, BUT WHAT YOU KEEP. Did I mention that he runs BILLIONS?
Posted by: MarkM
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February 20, 2007 8:34 PM [link]
Loking forward to the report on WGDF. I lived in central Nevada for 15 long years and I recall their owning a crappy little heap leach operation in Goldfiled south of Tonopah. it could never get off the ground and of course that was the 80s-90s. However there is a lot of gold in that little town still.
Posted by: agaunv
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February 20, 2007 9:05 PM [link]
agaunv,
Thank you for the comment. Hope all is well. Not sure about WGDF back then can you link? Their main asset now is Mesquite in California.
All the best.
Posted by: golden7
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February 20, 2007 9:10 PM [link]
Mark M
Your synopsis would help as I can't access original, not a member.
Have I already said... glad you're back?
My original efforts were to say that I was reasonably impressed by how well (some of the junior) miners (AZK, TGB, NAK) held up in face of a $13 drop in the commodity, and to querry how many others are worried about the extreme speculation in the Shanghai exchange.
Posted by: Rigdon
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February 20, 2007 9:22 PM [link]
Regarding Grantham's 7-year projections of -2% annual returns for U.S. equities out to 2014.....
The problem with long-term forecasts like that, assuming he's even correct, is that you have no idea the route that the market will take.
Let's say Grantham is right and the SPX is trading at 1275 or so by January 2014 (a return of -2% compounded annually for seven years.) That doesn't sound very appealing and would dictate a defensive posture or even a move to 100% cash or fixed-income.
But what if the SPX gains another 75% between now and 2010 to 2,550, then falls 50% (as it did from 1973-1974 and 2000-2002) between 2011-2014? You'd arrive at the same 1,275 figure.
It would be foolish going to cash or fixed-income if the market rallies for another 3-4 years, just because you believe it will be much lower sometime next decade.
Better to simply follow the charts and follow the market. If the U.S. indexes continue to make higher highs, it makes no sense to continue holding a bearish view. If the indexes break down and violate key supports, it makes no sense to continue holding a bullish view.
Posted by: leewhee
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February 20, 2007 9:48 PM [link]
RE: GLD
Trendline break is very obvious. "Very obvious" is sometimes a great fade.
I am not making any calls on gold here. All I am saying is that if you have a position or want to have a postion - long or short - don't be asleep at the wheel right now.
RE: Stock market.
I remember Bill's melt up comment, and I also remember a comment months ago when Bill said that he was not going to buy stocks but that he thought the stock market had a good chance of rallying into the 1st Quarter of 2007. Good call Bill.
Posted by: g034
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February 20, 2007 11:04 PM [link]
leewhee-
There are lots of ways to get to 1275, and yours is just one. I'd love to see yours happen because PEs would have to go through the roof again under that scenario and I would want to tell my grandchildren how one generation was so imbecilic as to foster TWO stock bubbles of historic proportions. That's never happened before.
Every trader thinks he can get in at the bottom and sell at the top. That makes them God if they can do it. The odds-- and history-- say they won't but will have their accounts chewed to pieces as they jump on every false rally on the way down just like 2000-2002.
But Grantham's view and approach is for long term investors not traders. I am just pointing out that Bill's view of values here is not some whack-o idea borne of a feverish brain. (Recall one nitpicking reader complained that Bill was emphasizing the "wrong headlines" in what he was reporting.) And yes, Grantham thinks cash will do well very soon. He is not a stupid man but perhaps he is wrong this time, eh? He is very patient though. Did you notice that our host is too? Hmmm.
g034- I am only reinforcing your WARNING here. Of course gold can recover above the trendline break if it so chooses. It can also become even more overbought especially if the mo-mo's and hedgies get ahold of it again like early last year. But it was overbought and the miners weren't exactly rallying with vigor so my antennae were already on fire. The trendline break just sounded the alarm. It's had a very nice run and got thrown back at strong resistance. It's a signal to PAY CLOSE ATTENTION and to honor your discipline whatever that may be. I think that is what you are saying. I concur.
Thank you to those who noted my "return from the woodshed" but I really cannot observe or post much at this time. Good luck and good trading all.
Posted by: MarkM
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February 21, 2007 6:07 AM [link]
Dear Bill,
I would like to respectfully take exception to you 'take" on the radio biz. The true value of this thing, the combined company is not that their product represents a material advancement of the status quo, which it does. The real beauty of the thing is, if you have one radio company, and they do deals with most of the car manufacturers to put these babies in every car standard, then this technology becomes a very appealing way for the auto manufacturer to turn the radio-space on the dashboard from a money-loser, in most cases, to a recurring revenue producer, based on the makers' inclusion in the back-end billing.
Here in America, we have a proud history of charging people money for things that had, heretofore, been totally free. Heck, the freaking air is for sale down here. And no disrespect to my fellow countyman, but if they haven't drawn the line by now, then why now? Also, it's just a matter of time until sattelite radio is festooned with ads just like the terrestrial counterpart, but by then, it's too late. And hey...You can finance the monthlies right along with the car. Ya gotta love it.
Chris
Posted by: zen_archer
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February 21, 2007 8:37 AM [link]
Dear Bill,
I would like to respectfully take exception to you 'take" on the radio biz. The true value of this thing, the combined company is not that their product represents a material advancement of the status quo, which it does. The real beauty of the thing is, if you have one radio company, and they do deals with most of the car manufacturers to put these babies in every car standard, then this technology becomes a very appealing way for the auto manufacturer to turn the radio-space on the dashboard from a money-loser, in most cases, to a recurring revenue producer, based on the makers' inclusion in the back-end billing.
Here in America, we have a proud history of charging people money for things that had, heretofore, been totally free. Heck, the freaking air is for sale down here. And no disrespect to my fellow countyman, but if they haven't drawn the line by now, then why now? Also, it's just a matter of time until sattelite radio is festooned with ads just like the terrestrial counterpart, but by then, it's too late. And hey...You can finance the monthlies right along with the car. Ya gotta love it.
Chris
Posted by: zen_archer
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February 21, 2007 8:37 AM [link]
I found a very interesting article about how 'margin debt' keeps on helping to push the value of asset prices. The report is long with some historical comparisons and is worth reading.
http://www.safehaven.com/article-6950.htm
Posted by: Lelik
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February 21, 2007 9:02 AM [link]
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XSR, (Canadian Satellite Radio, trading on the TSE), was up 27.11% yesterday. It gave me pause to wonder about that kind of trading opportunity, but I have to respect your philosophy, Bill, of trading prices of good companies, not just any company.
Interesting comment on CBC radio this morning, offering the perspective that if the merger is allowed, it will be allowing these players to renege on their commitment to compete, but their independent failures are most certainly self-induced and somewhat attributable to their profligate spending, (e.g. $500 million for Howard Stern). Maybe they should be forced to live or die by their original commitments.
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February 20, 2007 8:55 AM [link]