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August 3, 2006
Starbucks upgraded but not quite ready for me, Thurs., August 3, 2006, 2:45 PM
We know that Starbucks is a popular store, a popular story and a terrific stock to hold. But it also has down phases too, so traders have to keep up.
Today the UBS analyst upgraded his rating on SBUX to a Buy 1. Download UBS Aug 3 SBUX report.
His 12-month target is now $40 (which was lowered from $42) based on 36x the UBS 2008e EPS of $1.11. That's too much cream and sugar for me.
Starbucks Corp. [GICS 30, Cara 100]
(SBUX: Yahoo Finance file)
(SBUX: StockChart chart)
(SBUX: Investertech chart)
(SBUX: ADVFN Financial Data)
(SBUX: ADVFN Financial Data)
The charts indicate that the SBUX Monthly data RSI is still at 43.7. With this week's price decline that RSI value will drop into the 30's but is still too high for my Accumulation zone. Moreover I think the broad equity market is going to face a couple months of tough sledding (i.e., it's going downhill for a while, possibly starting tomorrow after the U.S. Jobs Report comes out).
So I think that, with the PE being as high as it is, it's still risky to go back in at this point.
But I like the growth, and know that traders like the stores and the story. The UBS report this morning served to pull up the stock, but those gains could evaporate tomorrow. I'm still thinking about $27 looks to be the Accumulation point for this Cara 100 favorite.
btw, I finally put SBUX into GICS 30 (consumer staples). I figure when enough customers absolutely must have their coffee before they can function, this is not a discretionary item.
As a coffee drinker I prefer Tim Horton's, eh! Unfortunately, Timmy is not going to make it into the Cara 100 like Starbucks, which is truly becoming a global brand. Timmy is a Canadian and potentially north-eastern U.S. brand " albeit Canada's number one brand, even beating Coca Cola and the rest.
It's a cultural thing that has something to do with hockey, eh.

Posted by Posted by Bill Cara on August 3, 2006 02:45:31 PM | Category: 30 Consumer Staples , Cara Global 100 Best Companies
Discourse
Bill -
Seems to me your core approach takes the best of both worlds: both conservative (proven companies) and bold (targeting >35% annual gains).
It focuses upon trading in and out of proven companies as they become favorably priced, then overvalued. (avoiding the risk of a small IBD stock failing to manage growth, or of a value stock languishing undervalued).
It also makes great sense to "stand on the analysts shoulders" by interpreting, then using their profit projections to estimate potential price gains, and thus entry points.
I just have two questions: first, can we trust ANY financial statements? I read within the last year in Fortune that much of Jack Welches strong, steady earnings growth traced to major under-reserving of GEs reinsurance business.
If analysts of the MOST FOLLOWED company in the US didnt discover this until 10 years after the fact, how can we ever trust any financial statements at all? (From what I have read, Sarbanes Oxley hasnt led to an out-break of accounting honesty!)
My less paranoid question is a bigger one. Whether or not a Cara 100 stock merits purchase once it comes down in price depends, ultimately, upon whether its proven business model can generate growth in the future as it has in the past.
Has Starbucks saturated the US market? If so, will they be as successful internationally? Sure, they have flagship stores overseas, but can they REALLY dominate there, as they do in the US? My daughter lives in Portugal where espresso drinks cost 50 cents, not >$2 !
Will Dells direct to customer distribution continue to dominate? Or will customers revert to computer stores, so they have somewhere to complain face-to-face when increasingly complex PCs fail? (jConversely, can Dell fix their terrible telephone support at affordable cost?)
Will PC growth in future be sufficient for Intel to prosper? (I've read crtics saying that the world doesn't need the power of the dual core chips, and won't pay for it.) If PCs won't provide enough growth, they will need to capture dominanced in a new market - which they havent been able to do yet with cellphones, mp3 players, dsl or flash.
I have less doubt about Dow, whose business is to serve other industries. Theyre embedded in others products.
And, of course, materials, financials, consumer stocks may be easier to read in that they depend upon visible economic trends rather than particulars of a clever business model.
I havent heard you explain how you address either the large strategic questions for the Cara 100, or reliability of financial statements.
Thanks in advance for your customarily sage response.
Jock
Re:
"Seems to me your core approach takes the best of both worlds: both conservative (proven companies) and bold (targeting >35% annual gains)."
Hmmm...very interesting Jock!
Bill,
I sincerely hope you engage in an open discussion/debate for the benefit of us all, particularly the SBUX and Dell future earnings scenarios (some have written off INTC - for now).
Posted by: oratier
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August 3, 2006 3:47 PM [link]
Jock,
Excellent question. I don't have too much to say right now. My database work started at 4am and after 6:30am I haven't had a chance to get back to it because of everything else I am doing. I need a vacation.
btw, I'll be spending most of Saturday in the executive tent of the organization formerly known as Caribana. It's the Parade of Bands Ceremony of the Toronto Caribbean Carnival. If I recover from the party, I'll be finishing the Week In Review on Sunday evening.
Jock, I don't think the business models of Intel, Dell, or Starbucks are dead or even dieing. The economy is just not as great as Larry Kudlow and the President would have you believe. The war is costly. Consequently, inflation (which they denied) is costly. People are stretched, and a lot of the spending is actually coming from inheritance money, as I see it, now that the "wealth effect" seems to be wearing thin. But things will get better.
This cycle is not much different than many others except that with all the available info it means people are better informed, and hence crankier than in the past. Offshoring and downsizing has hurt a lot of people, and the families of those involved directly in this war are naturally worried. Psychologically, people are as low as I can ever recall in economic circumstances that really are not bad. They are doubting and questioning everything. They see CEO's go to jail with basically life sentences and they think the worst of other CEO's. But this too will pass.
Life happens faster now, and that means that good quality managers are needed to tweak the business models of companies, no matter how big they are -- like GE did. As to GE under Welch, I have written about this. Had those insurance loss reserves not been set so low for so many years, Welch would not (i) be called the Executive of the Century, and (ii) have been paid so much.
This just goes to show the need to further separate executive and non-executive directors. For large cap companies, it may come down to needing total separation so that no corporate officer is able to serve on that company's board -- just be invited to the meetings, like the auditor. Maybe the biggest investors ought to appoint their own board for these companies, and be responsible for the compliance issues. I never thought I'd say that, but jail time doesn't stop criminals. If you can steal $10 million or $100 million with no risk of being shot in the process, what's 5 or 10 years in prison... some people think.
And, do you think a truly independent board would ever pay the compensation packages some of these executives get? I hardly think so. But shareholders have lost control -- managers are now in control. That's not good.
As to the Cara 100, price is not the issue. Financial strength, operating metrics and business model etc are. If I see a change, I'll take the company out of the Cara 100, and with some help in future, I'll run a Cara 250, including all the research, links, etc. That will mean more articles, but with volunteers to help, I ought to be able to do it.
Posted by: Bill Cara
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August 3, 2006 4:22 PM [link]
Hi,Bill and others
do you think Tim Hortons now reach the accumulation area? Thanks for your comments.
Posted by: SmallCapFan
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August 3, 2006 8:18 PM [link]
I seem to recall someone saying that Tim Horton's was a $20 stock. It's getting there... but with another 160M shares coming out in Oct. doesn't it look like it will get there soon?
http://www.hotelnewsresource.com/pid/detail.php?sid=23347&pid=10044
When I was in China last year there was a Starbucks right inside the Forbidden City. If that is not market saturation I don't know what is.
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Re: how can we ever trust any financial statements at all? An old joke an accountant once told me...
A business man was interviewing applicants for the position of divisional manager. He devised a simple test to select the most suitable person for the job. He asked each applicant the question, "What is two and two?"
The first interviewee was a journalist. His answer was "Twenty-two."
The second was a social worker. She said, "I don't know the answer but I'm glad we had time to discuss this important question."
The third applicant was an engineer. He pulled out a slide rule and showed the answer to be between 3.999 and 4.001.
The next person was a lawyer. He stated that in the case of Jenkins v Commr of Stamp Duties (Qld), two and two was proven to be four.
The last applicant was an accountant. The business man asked him, "How much is two and two?"
The accountant got up from his chair, went over to the door and closed it then came back and sat down. He leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "How much do you want it to be?"
He got the job.
wavesmash,
LMAO. thank you. i will tell that around the next bonfire.
Posted by: mtzion
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August 4, 2006 12:29 AM [link]
Guys and gals-
Random thoughts at 4am....
The overnight gold chart is very skittish and usually presages a move coming.
I am looking to go slightly net short after the bulls exhaust themselves on this run.
Anyone else concerned about the overbullishness in the energy space besides stockman and I?
Didn't EBAY look like a buy at 23?
PG looked like a great buy for this environment at 54ish. Starting to look toppy though. The play was to write puts at 62 a while back and harvest them at 56ish when they broke downtrend line. (Thanks Bill, g034!)
If bonds are not part of your portfolio, several systems I follow are about to flash green for a buy signal. This goes against my scenario but you can't fight the (manipulated?) tape.
Posted by: MarkM
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August 4, 2006 4:54 AM [link]
wavesmash, thank you for your comments.
Posted by: SmallCapFan
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August 4, 2006 10:32 AM [link]

Speaking of things that are on the decline... Internet Fund assets at Rydex now down to early 2003 levels. I believe I had posted that the tech and semi funds were at similar levels last week.
Monthly RSI's are looking interesting on stocks such as EBAY and YHOO. As Bill says if the market is going lower these may be taken down with the ship as well. However at least the 'hot money' is out. Growth managers and traders now look to energy for growth, not tech or internet.
Posted by: stockman
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August 3, 2006 3:05 PM [link]